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Ontario Election 2018

If you want to be a backward uninformed individual based on repressed thoughts and selective interpretation of a book, home school your kids and stop ruining it for the general populous.  The decision on the sex Ed curriculum was beyond asinine and it astounds me that uneducated morons continue to be the driving force behind policy.
 
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Dealing with the second objective, voter parity, and giving the Minister the benefit of the doubt that he understood that the primary concern is not voter parity but effective representation, there is no evidence of minimal impairment. The Province?s rationale for moving to a 25-ward structure had been carefully considered and rejected by the TWBR and by City Council just over a year ago. If there was a concern about the large size of some of the City?s wards (by my count, six wards had populations ranging from 70,000 to 97,000) why not deal with these six wards specifically? Why impose a solution (increasing all ward sizes to 111,000) that is far worse, in terms of achieving effective representation, than the original problem? And, again, why do so in the middle of the City?s election? [77]

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Crickets.
 
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Fteedoms -- the Notwithstanding Clause:

WHAT IS IT?

The notwithstanding clause ? or Section 33 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms ? gives provincial legislatures or Parliament the ability, through the passage of a law, to override certain portions of the charter for a five-year term.


More:
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/what-is-the-notwithstanding-clause-an-explainer-on-the-rarely-used-provision



https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/what-is-the-notwithstanding-clause-an-explainer-on-the-rarely-used-provision
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-vic-fedeli-mini-budget-fall-economic-statement-1.4904632

Fedeli is scheduled to deliver the fall economic statement, the first budget document under Premier Doug Ford, on Thursday afternoon. It will unveil the PCs' short-term plans for spending restraint in the face of what Fedeli says is a $15 billion deficit inherited from the previous Liberal government.

Two offices facing cuts are those of the Environmental Commissioner of Ontario and the Ontario Child Advocate, according to government and PC party sources who spoke to CBC News. Both agencies are headed by independent officers who report to the legislature, rather than to the government, giving them an independent status similar to the auditor general.

Because really how important are children and the environment?
 
Hey, remember that stupid program where we taxed polluters and gave the money to home owners and small businesses to encourage green energy? Well, you'll be glad to know that it's going to be replaced with lower emission standards, no carbon tax and a system of giving tax payer money to polluters.

Oh, and a reminder to pick up trash. So climate crisis solved.
 
https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1133058813773221888

I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.

I suppose it will help the guy that's looking for a 6-pack of Bud on a busy Wednesday evening and is too tired to drive all the way into town.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.

It's not really for that reason, boys.

It's got more to do with the fact that the breweries own the Beer Store, and that pricing isn't very competitive given this.  The result should be more competitive pricing, due to real competition for the LCBO and The Beer Store.
 
What's the urgency on this issue? Why not wait until the agreement expires?

<I mean, I know the answers, but still feel compelled to ask>
 
Frank E said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I enjoy beer as much as the next person but I really don't get this desire to have it in corner stores. At least where I am there's more than enough Beer Stores/LCBOs/grocery stores that carry it.

It's another thing Ford is doing for his friends in rural areas, where there's much less access to that kind of stuff. Totally unnecessary in most urban and suburban areas.

It's not really for that reason, boys.

It's got more to do with the fact that the breweries own the Beer Store, and that pricing isn't very competitive given this.  The result should be more competitive pricing, due to real competition for the LCBO and The Beer Store.

The Beer Store doesn't control the pricing, but they do charge the breweries packaging fees. So to sell a 6pack, it costs x, to sell a 6 and a 12 pack, it costs 2x. Eliminating that cost may reduce prices. My concern is am I going to be able to get the same selection? Or will it eventually be hard to find something that's not Bud, or Blue, or Export...

Also, why are we still paying a deposit on cans? What's the difference between a beer can and a pop can?
 
Ontario brewery sales reps will be busy. They went from 2 customers (LCBO and Beerstore) to a million. Got to free the 12+ packs though. You pay for shelf space and to be listed currently.
 
Frank E said:
It's got more to do with the fact that the breweries own the Beer Store, and that pricing isn't very competitive given this.  The result should be more competitive pricing, due to real competition for the LCBO and The Beer Store.

Gosh. It's almost like selling alcohol via monopoly was intended to keep prices artificially high. Almost as if, and bear with me now, in a society with public health care there was a public incentive to discourage alcohol abuse.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
It's got more to do with the fact that the breweries own the Beer Store, and that pricing isn't very competitive given this.  The result should be more competitive pricing, due to real competition for the LCBO and The Beer Store.

Gosh. It's almost like selling alcohol via monopoly was intended to keep prices artificially high. Almost as if, and bear with me now, in a society with public health care there was a public incentive to discourage alcohol abuse.
That's BS because the Beerstore is privately owned. Their goal is to sell as much as possible.
 
cabber24 said:
That's BS because the Beerstore is privately owned. Their goal is to sell as much as possible.

No, their goal is to maximize profitability. Prices are still subject to LCBO established minimums. The whole "break up the beer store to lower costs" argument, aside from being practically questionable when compared to other provinces' experiences with the same, relies on the idea that the Beer Store is keeping prices artificially high which, basic economics would tell us, would limit consumption.
 
Nik the Trik said:
cabber24 said:
That's BS because the Beerstore is privately owned. Their goal is to sell as much as possible.

No, their goal is to maximize profitability. Prices are still subject to LCBO established minimums. The whole "break up the beer store to lower costs" argument, aside from being practically questionable when compared to other provinces' experiences with the same, relies on the idea that the Beer Store is keeping prices artificially high which, basic economics would tell us, would limit consumption.
I can assure you it's not the Beer Store's goal to limit consumption.
 
cabber24 said:
I can assure you it's not the Beer Store's goal to limit consumption.

Directly, no. But as a monopoly working within the framework of a public system that regulates and controls the sale of alcohol, some of the decisions they make absolutely do have that effect.

 
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