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Penguins @ Maple Leafs - Nov. 11th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050

herman said:
BrownRolo said:
I really think the Leafs need to move on from Marner. He has some nifty passes but he also just makes too many brain-dead plays. He also always loses puck battles. He is sooo afraid of contact. Move him for a Top 6 forward and a top 4 dman.

I value the creativity, but it needs to be deployed at the right time and place.
herman said:
BrownRolo said:
I really think the Leafs need to move on from Marner. He has some nifty passes but he also just makes too many brain-dead plays. He also always loses puck battles. He is sooo afraid of contact. Move him for a Top 6 forward and a top 4 dman.

I value the creativity, but it needs to be deployed at the right time and place.

I feel like he tries these "creative" plays and 80% of the time they fail but occasionally it works and it's a beautiful play.
 
azzurri63 said:
Jeremiad said:
azzurri63 said:
Honestly other than Samsonov who I'm not sold on team has grossly underperformed. As a cup contender or favourite at this moment we don't even look like a playoff team. Everything is a concern for me and especially scoring which none of us would have thought we would be struggling with.

Did Willy help turn that frown upside down?

Temporarily but we are 5-6 weeks into the season and this team has some issues. I'm actually impressed with our GA especially with our goalie injuries but the team looks nothing like the team that was exciting to watch in previous seasons.

The issues aren't with talent.  The issues aren't with effort, though that's always a tempting criticism.  I don't know what the shooting % is for the stars but it sure seems like it's down for 34 at least.

I'll say again: mix up the first two lines.

Also, Robertson ... helloooo?  One impactful game and then he's invisible since.
 
Sandinius said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Sandinius said:
I miss Matthews from last year

I miss Sandin from last year.  He's been shaky-shaky.

Indeed, makes him look pretty stupid for holding out so long.
He didn't hold out for long..he didn't miss a game. And people need to remember he's now playing on the right side which is new for him. Still needs to clean up the mistakes.
 
azzurri63 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bullfrog said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bullfrog said:
Oh Nylander, so close!

Sprung by Marner.  Let's quell the Get Rid of Mitch chatter.

True, but the reason it was back in the zone was an unwise pass down the middle by Marner.

Medium-high risk, super-high reward.

Not too difficult to fire a stretch pass down the ice when the other team is on a penalty kill and changing and this is what he is overpaid to do.It's the screwups he has to get rid of.

8-game point streak.  And yeah, he hasn't looked all the wonderful except for the game the other night.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Sandinius said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Sandinius said:
I miss Matthews from last year

I miss Sandin from last year.  He's been shaky-shaky.

Indeed, makes him look pretty stupid for holding out so long.
He didn't hold out for long..he didn't miss a game. And people need to remember he's now playing on the right side which is new for him. Still needs to clean up the mistakes.

Sure but he missed training camp.
He's not exactly proving he should get more than Liljegren.
Fair enough about playing his off side.
Hopefully he'll sharpen up, or I'll have to change my name to Liljegrenius. :)
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Jeremiad said:
azzurri63 said:
Honestly other than Samsonov who I'm not sold on team has grossly underperformed. As a cup contender or favourite at this moment we don't even look like a playoff team. Everything is a concern for me and especially scoring which none of us would have thought we would be struggling with.

Did Willy help turn that frown upside down?

Temporarily but we are 5-6 weeks into the season and this team has some issues. I'm actually impressed with our GA especially with our goalie injuries but the team looks nothing like the team that was exciting to watch in previous seasons.

The issues aren't with talent.  The issues aren't with effort, though that's always a tempting criticism.  I don't know what the shooting % is for the stars but it sure seems like it's down for 34 at least.

I'll say again: mix up the first two lines.

Also, Robertson ... helloooo?  One impactful game and then he's invisible since.
5 points in 8 games for Nick...I've got no problem with him so far. He's learning as he goes and with limited ice time. Patience.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Jeremiad said:
azzurri63 said:
Honestly other than Samsonov who I'm not sold on team has grossly underperformed. As a cup contender or favourite at this moment we don't even look like a playoff team. Everything is a concern for me and especially scoring which none of us would have thought we would be struggling with.

Did Willy help turn that frown upside down?

Temporarily but we are 5-6 weeks into the season and this team has some issues. I'm actually impressed with our GA especially with our goalie injuries but the team looks nothing like the team that was exciting to watch in previous seasons.

The issues aren't with talent.  The issues aren't with effort, though that's always a tempting criticism.  I don't know what the shooting % is for the stars but it sure seems like it's down for 34 at least.

I'll say again: mix up the first two lines.

Also, Robertson ... helloooo?  One impactful game and then he's invisible since.
5 points in 8 games for Nick...I've got no problem with him so far. He's learning as he goes and with limited ice time. Patience.

Point taken.  I probably have my expectations set too high.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
azzurri63 said:
Jeremiad said:
azzurri63 said:
Honestly other than Samsonov who I'm not sold on team has grossly underperformed. As a cup contender or favourite at this moment we don't even look like a playoff team. Everything is a concern for me and especially scoring which none of us would have thought we would be struggling with.


Did Willy help turn that frown upside down?

Temporarily but we are 5-6 weeks into the season and this team has some issues. I'm actually impressed with our GA especially with our goalie injuries but the team looks nothing like the team that was exciting to watch in previous seasons.

The issues aren't with talent.  The issues aren't with effort, though that's always a tempting criticism.  I don't know what the shooting % is for the stars but it sure seems like it's down for 34 at least.

I'll say again: mix up the first two lines.

Also, Robertson ... helloooo?  One impactful game and then he's invisible since.

There's now a real chance that either Matthews or Robertson will be the difference maker in this game -- and, if that happens, it'll all be thanks to you (and also to me because I am thus prophesying).
 
Marner and Matthews is not working. Has Keefe been told to not break that line up? Please, please, please change it.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
2 shots this period.  Asleep.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
2 shots this period.  Asleep.

Pathetic. Probably struggle against the Canucks tomorrow as well and who knows who's in net. Guy I'm most pissed at with his play is Matthews.
 

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