Phil Kessel

[Redleaf]

So no, I don't think it's easier to maintain the current course and somehow add a #1 centre.

Exactly. I mean, this summer is probably the team's last shot at being able to get a #1 centre that's of the right age and point in his development to play with Kessel without having to gut the system, and, even still, the word is that Getzlaf's preference is to stay with the Ducks. If the Leafs miss out there, it may very well be time to pull the pin and blow this thing up.

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

 

[Britishbulldog]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

That is the conclusion I came to in the Armchair GM thread.  If Getzlaf was traded for and was  re-signed and then Perry was signed as a UFA it would most likely be a cap hit of $14 MIL a year which would make it necessary to unload another $3 MIL + paid forward. (read Lupul, Grabovski, JVR, or MacArthur)

 

[bustaheims]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

Probably too many moving pieces there. First, they have to hope Perry hits the open market. Then, they have to get him to sign here, and then they have to find a way to turn Kessel into a #1 centre without having to add too much (which is unlikely - centres have more value than wingers). The more moving parts you have in a scenario, the more likely it is to not work out - especially when we're talking about specific, high demand pieces.

 

[Redleaf]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

Probably too many moving pieces there. First, they have to hope Perry hits the open market. Then, they have to get him to sign here, and then they have to find a way to turn Kessel into a #1 centre without having to add too much (which is unlikely - centres have more value than wingers). The more moving parts you have in a scenario, the more likely it is to not work out - especially when we're talking about specific, high demand pieces.

Perhaps, but if they were able to get Perry signed, that scenario suddenly becomes a lot more viable.

 

[Corn Flake]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

That is the conclusion I came to in the Armchair GM thread.  If Getzlaf was traded for and was  re-signed and then Perry was signed as a UFA it would most likely be a cap hit of $14 MIL a year which would make it necessary to unload another $3 MIL + paid forward. (read Lupul, Grabovski, JVR, or MacArthur)

I wouldn't even blink at unloading whatver needed to be unloaded to bring those two on board. Mac would be the first one over the wall. 

I think they will either stay or go elsewhere as a package.  They will probably decline a bit in production over some crazy 8-year deals, but you get so much experience, grit and leadership from both, it won't matter.

 

[Britishbulldog]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

That is the conclusion I came to in the Armchair GM thread.  If Getzlaf was traded for and was  re-signed and then Perry was signed as a UFA it would most likely be a cap hit of $14 MIL a year which would make it necessary to unload another $3 MIL + paid forward. (read Lupul, Grabovski, JVR, or MacArthur)

I wouldn't even blink at unloading whatver needed to be unloaded to bring those two on board. Mac would be the first one over the wall. 

I think they will either stay or go elsewhere as a package.  They will probably decline a bit in production over some crazy 8-year deals, but you get so much experience, grit and leadership from both, it won't matter.

I agree CF.

The Leafs could run:

JVR / Getzlaf / Perry

Lupul / Grabovski / Kulemin

for another 8 years and still have cap space to keep a decent defense corps and goaltending.

 

[Kin]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

I mean, sure, that's a thing that could conceivably happen.

The problem, and I mean this in a broad sense as opposed to the specific proposal, is that it's only a plan in the sense that "Maybe my uncle will die and leave me a lot of money" is a plan for my financial future. Essentially both major parts there, Perry signing here and another team being willing to trade a #1 centre, are things that are almost entirely outside of the Maple Leafs' control.

So while it might be nice to think about the positive things that could shake out if the breaks go the Leafs way the team really needs a course of action where things are in their control.

 

[nutman]

What is this!!! the wanna be GM thread. wow! Cox shoots a little bs and you guys go on for days.

 

[Kin]

What is this!!!

Not a question mark.

 

[nutman]

What is this!!!

Not a question mark.

Nick you are just so warped. only you could be brain washed by Cox.

 

[Kin]

Nick you are just so warped. only you could be brain washed by Cox.

And you're probably the only one of us who's had his brain washed with a liberal application of Lemon Pledge.

 

[PG]

What is this!!! the wanna be GM thread. wow! Cox shoots a little bs and you guys go on for days.

Well you keep telling us that the 1st line centre we all covet is already on the team.....but you won't tell us who he is!

Name him already so we can save time dreaming up scenarios for guys like Getzlaf.....

 

[TML fan]

Tomas Kaberle?

 

[nutman]

What is this!!! the wanna be GM thread. wow! Cox shoots a little bs and you guys go on for days.

Well you keep telling us that the 1st line centre we all covet is already on the team.....but you won't tell us who he is!

Name him already so we can save time dreaming up scenarios for guys like Getzlaf.....

It dont matter, if we had Crosby he would not be good enough for you guys. you guys thrive on the bad, and no matter what anyone says the Leafs will never be good enough. if we won the cup in five you would have a 20 page talk on why we did not do it in 4 games. and demand trades.

 

[Zee]

What is this!!! the wanna be GM thread. wow! Cox shoots a little bs and you guys go on for days.

Well you keep telling us that the 1st line centre we all covet is already on the team.....but you won't tell us who he is!

Name him already so we can save time dreaming up scenarios for guys like Getzlaf.....

It dont matter, if we had Crosby he would not be good enough for you guys. you guys thrive on the bad, and no matter what anyone says the Leafs will never be good enough. if we won the cup in five you would have a 20 page talk on why we did not do it in 4 games. and demand trades.

Now you're being a bit silly.  I would only complain if it took 7 games to win the Cup.

 

[nutman]

LMFAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[Kin]

It dont matter, if we had Crosby he would not be good enough for you guys. you guys thrive on the bad, and no matter what anyone says the Leafs will never be good enough. if we won the cup in five you would have a 20 page talk on why we did not do it in 4 games. and demand trades.

I mean, the way things are around here you'd think the Leafs hadn't made the playoffs in 8 years or something.

 

[Redleaf]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

I mean, sure, that's a thing that could conceivably happen.

The problem, and I mean this in a broad sense as opposed to the specific proposal, is that it's only a plan in the sense that "Maybe my uncle will die and leave me a lot of money" is a plan for my financial future. Essentially both major parts there, Perry signing here and another team being willing to trade a #1 centre, are things that are almost entirely outside of the Maple Leafs' control.

So while it might be nice to think about the positive things that could shake out if the breaks go the Leafs way the team really needs a course of action where things are in their control.

I get what you're saying, but in reality, very little is in the Leafs (or any other sports teams) control. They cant control which pick they will get at the draft. They cant control when players decide they want out. They cant control which teams to trade with, etc, etc....

So, its nice to say they should take a course of action where things are in their control. The bigger picture points more to  'hoping for the breaks' to come their way.

 

[nutman]

It dont matter, if we had Crosby he would not be good enough for you guys. you guys thrive on the bad, and no matter what anyone says the Leafs will never be good enough. if we won the cup in five you would have a 20 page talk on why we did not do it in 4 games. and demand trades.

I mean, the way things are around here you'd think the Leafs hadn't made the playoffs in 8 years or something.

Hey look if it was ten I would be worried. but 8 thats nothing in a good rebuild. ;D

 

[TML fan]

It doesnt appear like a centreman will fall into their laps.

Maybe they could sign Perry, and trade Kessel for a centre?

Too 'outside-the-box'?

Lupul-?-Perry

I mean, sure, that's a thing that could conceivably happen.

The problem, and I mean this in a broad sense as opposed to the specific proposal, is that it's only a plan in the sense that "Maybe my uncle will die and leave me a lot of money" is a plan for my financial future. Essentially both major parts there, Perry signing here and another team being willing to trade a #1 centre, are things that are almost entirely outside of the Maple Leafs' control.

So while it might be nice to think about the positive things that could shake out if the breaks go the Leafs way the team really needs a course of action where things are in their control.

I get what you're saying, but in reality, very little is in the Leafs control. They cant control which pick they will get at the draft. They cant control when players decide they want out. They cant control which teams to trade with, etc, etc....

So, its nice to say they should take a course of action where things are in their control, the bigger picture points more to  'hoping for the breaks' to come their way.

I think the most important element that is out of their control is how a player develops, or if he develops at all.