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R1G7: Leafs @ Bruins - May 13th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

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This was almost my TV last night
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
As an aside a few of my Sharks fan buddies at work mentioned that the refs screwed the Leafs last night...
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You have buddies who are Sharks fans?  Where do you live?

Edit: oh California, that makes sense now.
 
Zee said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
As an aside a few of my Sharks fan buddies at work mentioned that the refs screwed the Leafs last night...
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You have buddies who are Sharks fans?  Where do you live?

Edit: oh California, that makes sense now.
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Yeah, San Jose.

Wife is from LA, so the Kings vs Sharks series should be a riot.

 
Potvin29 said:
I have a hangover and didn't even drink.

This is how comic book bad guys are born.
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I swore a lot last night.

A lot.

I would have rathered they get crushed 6-0 from the get go.
 
That game was just cruel. Epic Collapse. The saddest part is that that last game will take away from all the good that they achieved this year.

Not fair!

I honestly am not sure what to think.

And about the Leaf haters. Yes, this epic collapse gives them ample fuel to keep up with their terribly unoriginal Leaf jokes. But these haters were present ever since the 80's and never ceased even when the Leafs made the eastern conference finals a few times. I've heard it all. The only way they will be silenced is when the Leafs somehow win it all. Even then, haters will be crying "fluke"! So if, by some epic miracle, they ever do win, I would hope they would be in position to seriously contend for a few years after. Otherwise, the hate won't stop.

It's hard to tell if this is the beginning of something good or not.  Next year might be a downer after this but I am hoping that this will be good for the long term. It's hard to tell.

I'm glad that Kessel had the series that he did. I hope I'm wrong but I have this feeling that the Nonis/Kessel's agent negotiations may not go smoothly. I'm not sure if Nonis is eager to give Kessel any kind of raise as I heard that he wasn't on board with the Kessel trade to begin with. I hope Kessel stays here for a long time though.
 
This is the prime example of why I've been a hockey fan first and a Leaf fan distantly second, ever since the 05 lockout.

Also, it doesn't surprise me that Bergeron was the one who finished them off.. He's proving why he's one of the league's best players.
 
oakl0008 said:
That game was just cruel. Epic Collapse. The saddest part is that that last game will take away from all the good that they achieved this year.
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No it won't. Not for me, at least.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bruins are pushing back ... and they will get the next call.

And we have got to start winning a few draws, or it will come back to bite us.
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If we won half the draws this would have been a different result. I think you are bang on, Zanzibar. 

I am still in such shock every time I think about how it went down. 

I think the frustration comes from the inability to define our team. 
Are we a lucky team that got into the playoffs because of a shortened schedule?
Are we a good team that had some bad breaks?
Are we a bad team that got what it deserved?

We were good, bad and at times...ugly.  Sometimes in the same game.  And now they are clearing out their lockers and it will be a summer of uncertainty for them and for fans. 

The drama of trailing in the series, coming back to Game 7 and then choking, for me, masks how to rationalize much of it.
Anyway, I suspect Gardiner, Franson, Colborne, Frattin, Scrivens and Reimer will probably get even better next year.  Lets hope they trade for someone dependable in the faceoff circle.

 
Bullfrog said:
oakl0008 said:
That game was just cruel. Epic Collapse. The saddest part is that that last game will take away from all the good that they achieved this year.
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No it won't. Not for me, at least.
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That's good.  :)

And honestly, I too see a lot of good that came out of this season overall. It just royally sucks that it had to end that way. I hate that the Leafs will possibly be stigmatized for a long time by That Game.

There are many other sports teams that came back with a vengeance after having one of Those Games. I hope to God the Leafs will also be one of them. 
 
hockeyfan1 said:
TML fan said:
Petty much everything that was wrong with the team all season long explodexto the foreground in the last 10 minutes.

They defeated themselves.
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You've described it succinctly.  In fact, when the Leafs were up 4-1, I cringed knowing their penchant for having blown leads all season long. 

It seemed  that after Lucic lambasted Gunnarson into the boards, (should have been a penalty there), the 'momentum' changed.  Having Lucic & Chara parked on Reimer's doorstep with nary a Leaf in sight spoke volumes on Boston' ability to create havoc & distraction that led to their goals.  Reminded one of Game I when the Leafs looked confused and (mentally) intimidated.

No leadership in the last few minutes of the game was evident.  No shot-blocking, getting-down-on-the-ice to force the opposing player off-angle, etc., similar to the way the New York Rangers use that technique quite effectively.  Nothing.

I feel sorry for Reimer.  His teammates left him to roost in the ensuing craziness.  In the final crucial moments, when he needed it the most, they failed him miserably.

I had no expectations that the Leafs would even have come this far against the Bruins. They probably exceeded the expectations of Leaf fans everywhere.  It's just that no one wants their team to implode the way they did.  That's the ugly part none of us will want to remember.

Oh well, in the words of Randy Carlyle, time to move on.
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Going to totally agree with the both of you on this one. I know I seem to get down on this team a lot when I see glaring mistakes or deficiencies I seem to point them out and continually mention them. Last nights ending was exactly how you guys pointed it out. Running around in our end for long periods of time far too often this year almost looking like we were shorthanded. I've been harping about defensive zone coverage and the inability to get the puck out of our end since Wilson was here. That has not changed and I must say we did seem to hold on to wins this year compared to past years but the weaknesses were still there. I don't understand what Nonis, Carlyle and brass see game in game out and did nothing to address it. Players not willing to take a hit and get the puck out of our end. We saw it on most nights. I knew we would not have a answer for Chara and Lucic. Regular season means nothing, and all the talk about Lucic's crappy season doesn't mean anything today. He was running around all series banging bodies, flattening guys and no-one responded. How can I guy be left alone in front of our net like he was. Someone should have been flattening him and getting him out of there. Feel bad for Reimer almost wish he would pull a Billy Smith and taken care of matters himself because we don't have anyone that could. Maybe Fraser could have helped in that dept. Tough team during the year means nothing. Playoffs are a whole different ball game. Also Cherry was 100% right about leaving the points open. Terrible at that and not only in this series but all year. Doesn't the coaching staff see this. Leafs need to address their defensive zone coverage, find a #1 C and would love to see them pickup a tough stay at home defenceman who can clear the front of the net. Rest of this young team is fine. Burke has put the pieces in place. Few tweaks and the team will be competitive for a while as long as we don't start losing some pieces. Again you guys are bang on your assessment just don't understand why it wasn't addressed. Still awfully proud of this team. Did not expect 7 games against the Bruins who although we competed a bit better against them this year, they have had our number. Next year will be even better folks. Count on it. Go Leafs Go.
 
azzurri63 said:
hockeyfan1 said:
TML fan said:
Petty much everything that was wrong with the team all season long explodexto the foreground in the last 10 minutes.

They defeated themselves.
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You've described it succinctly.  In fact, when the Leafs were up 4-1, I cringed knowing their penchant for having blown leads all season long. 

It seemed  that after Lucic lambasted Gunnarson into the boards, (should have been a penalty there), the 'momentum' changed.  Having Lucic & Chara parked on Reimer's doorstep with nary a Leaf in sight spoke volumes on Boston' ability to create havoc & distraction that led to their goals.  Reminded one of Game I when the Leafs looked confused and (mentally) intimidated.

No leadership in the last few minutes of the game was evident.  No shot-blocking, getting-down-on-the-ice to force the opposing player off-angle, etc., similar to the way the New York Rangers use that technique quite effectively.  Nothing.

I feel sorry for Reimer.  His teammates left him to roost in the ensuing craziness.  In the final crucial moments, when he needed it the most, they failed him miserably.

I had no expectations that the Leafs would even have come this far against the Bruins. They probably exceeded the expectations of Leaf fans everywhere.  It's just that no one wants their team to implode the way they did.  That's the ugly part none of us will want to remember.

Oh well, in the words of Randy Carlyle, time to move on.
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Going to totally agree with the both of you on this one. I know I seem to get down on this team a lot when I see glaring mistakes or deficiencies I seem to point them out and continually mention them. Last nights ending was exactly how you guys pointed it out. Running around in our end for long periods of time far too often this year almost looking like we were shorthanded. I've been harping about defensive zone coverage and the inability to get the puck out of our end since Wilson was here. That has not changed and I must say we did seem to hold on to wins this year compared to past years but the weaknesses were still there. I don't understand what Nonis, Carlyle and brass see game in game out and did nothing to address it. Players not willing to take a hit and get the puck out of our end. We saw it on most nights. I knew we would not have a answer for Chara and Lucic. Regular season means nothing, and all the talk about Lucic's crappy season doesn't mean anything today. He was running around all series banging bodies, flattening guys and no-one responded. How can I guy be left alone in front of our net like he was. Someone should have been flattening him and getting him out of there. Feel bad for Reimer almost wish he would pull a Billy Smith and taken care of matters himself because we don't have anyone that could. Maybe Fraser could have helped in that dept. Tough team during the year means nothing. Playoffs are a whole different ball game. Also Cherry was 100% right about leaving the points open. Terrible at that and not only in this series but all year. Doesn't the coaching staff see this. Leafs need to address their defensive zone coverage, find a #1 C and would love to see them pickup a tough stay at home defenceman who can clear the front of the net. Rest of this young team is fine. Burke has put the pieces in place. Few tweaks and the team will be competitive for a while as long as we don't start losing some pieces. Again you guys are bang on your assessment just don't understand why it wasn't addressed. Still awfully proud of this team. Did not expect 7 games against the Bruins who although we competed a bit better against them this year, they have had our number. Next year will be even better folks. Count on it. Go Leafs Go.
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All good points. I think its worth mentioning that the 10 minute implosion happened as soon as the Leafs decided to defend the lead and stop attacking. RC played his checkers heavily and gave them the job of staying back, trapping and just dumping it out. That has been a weakness all season long.
 
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