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R1G7: Leafs @ Bruins - May 13th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

Potvin29 said:
Hindsight thought: Surprised Carlyle didn't call timeout at any point in the last 5:00.

I didn't want to be the first to mention it, and I'm surprised it took someone else so long.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
Hindsight thought: Surprised Carlyle didn't call timeout at any point in the last 5:00.

I didn't want to be the first to mention it, and I'm surprised it took someone else so long.

More hindsight - where was the guy yelling at his team to get it done, that they could win, that it was their game...the Kirk Muller type guy. Lucic was the guy for Boston. He lead by example on the ice and he was vocal in letting everyone know who was going to win that game.

The camera shots of the Leafs in the last few minutes were like deer in the headlights. Someone needed to snap them out of it.

 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
Hindsight thought: Surprised Carlyle didn't call timeout at any point in the last 5:00.

I didn't want to be the first to mention it, and I'm surprised it took someone else so long.

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned here as practically everyone who I've heard discussing the game brought up this point.

I'll chime in with more hindsight -- why was Chara left all alone in front of Reimer on the tying goal?  Phaneuf should have been on him.
 
Peter D. said:
I'll chime in with more hindsight -- why was Chara left all alone in front of Reimer on the tying goal?  Phaneuf should have been on him.

Phaneuf was on Chara, but he was so exhausted by that point that Chara easily pushed him out of the way right before the shot.
 
chestyleroux said:
Peter D. said:
I'll chime in with more hindsight -- why was Chara left all alone in front of Reimer on the tying goal?  Phaneuf should have been on him.

Phaneuf was on Chara, but he was so exhausted by that point that Chara easily pushed him out of the way right before the shot.

That's a sad excuse. Chara played well over 30 minutes...They should of been even in the energy level.

It shouldn't of mattered what Phaneuf had to do to move him...He should of done it..Hack him, stick him, cross check him..whatever..Let your goalie see the damn puck.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
chestyleroux said:
Peter D. said:
I'll chime in with more hindsight -- why was Chara left all alone in front of Reimer on the tying goal?  Phaneuf should have been on him.

Phaneuf was on Chara, but he was so exhausted by that point that Chara easily pushed him out of the way right before the shot.

That's a sad excuse. Chara played well over 30 minutes...They should of been even in the energy level.

It shouldn't of mattered what Phaneuf had to do to move him...He should of done it..Hack him, stick him, cross check him..whatever..Let your goalie see the damn puck.

Chara is also 6'9", 255 lbs.  Phaneuf is 6'3", 214.  Almost anyone would suffer the same fate getting pushed from behind by someone that much bigger than you.
 
Potvin29 said:
OldTimeHockey said:
chestyleroux said:
Peter D. said:
I'll chime in with more hindsight -- why was Chara left all alone in front of Reimer on the tying goal?  Phaneuf should have been on him.

Phaneuf was on Chara, but he was so exhausted by that point that Chara easily pushed him out of the way right before the shot.

That's a sad excuse. Chara played well over 30 minutes...They should of been even in the energy level.

It shouldn't of mattered what Phaneuf had to do to move him...He should of done it..Hack him, stick him, cross check him..whatever..Let your goalie see the damn puck.

Chara is also 6'9", 255 lbs.  Phaneuf is 6'3", 214.  Almost anyone would suffer the same fate getting pushed from behind by someone that much bigger than you.

Chara gets bigger every time his stats are looked up.

Also, that's why I said you do whatever it takes in your power to move him out of the way. If you watch the play, Phaneuf chose to stand in front of him instead of engaging him. Now in most cases that would be the right play, but with a minute left in the game and the whistles in the ref's pockets, I think you'd have to revert to 1995 and lay some lumber on the guy.
 
There are tons of things he could have done, but that's why I never criticize the D too hard on those plays in front.  Watching other games, the stuff in front of the net happens/changes so quickly, that things look bad on replay and slo-mo that in the heat of the moment, or if a puck had bounced a different way, wouldn't look so bad.  And it happens to every D.  I'm sure I could think of a handful or more reasons why he might have done what he did, but I'm not a masochist who wants the full weight of DionSux nation on me.

I just think it was a perfect storm of poor circumstances - Bergeron takes a surprisingly deceptive and quick wrister from the point, it makes it through, it avoids Chara, it makes it into the top corner, blah blah.  Where's that drink...
 
Potvin29 said:
There are tons of things he could have done, but that's why I never criticize the D too hard on those plays in front.  Watching other games, the stuff in front of the net happens/changes so quickly, that things look bad on replay and slo-mo that in the heat of the moment, or if a puck had bounced a different way, wouldn't look so bad.  And it happens to every D.  I'm sure I could think of a handful or more reasons why he might have done what he did, but I'm not a masochist who wants the full weight of DionSux nation on me.

Dion's head seemed to be in the clouds for most of the series and on that play he simply made the incorrect choice. That is all I was stating. I also think Reimer could be more active in that situation as well. I know that's not his style(nor is it most goalies style nowadays) but back when I played a stick to the groin or a carefully placed stick at the back of the players skates always helped.

I didn't make my 'tired' comment because I want to place the blame squarely on Phaneuf's shoulders..but he does deserve a portion of it. As a leader and as the 'top' dman.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Potvin29 said:
There are tons of things he could have done, but that's why I never criticize the D too hard on those plays in front.  Watching other games, the stuff in front of the net happens/changes so quickly, that things look bad on replay and slo-mo that in the heat of the moment, or if a puck had bounced a different way, wouldn't look so bad.  And it happens to every D.  I'm sure I could think of a handful or more reasons why he might have done what he did, but I'm not a masochist who wants the full weight of DionSux nation on me.

Dion's head seemed to be in the clouds for most of the series and on that play he simply made the incorrect choice. That is all I was stating. I also think Reimer could be more active in that situation as well. I know that's not his style(nor is it most goalies style nowadays) but back when I played a stick to the groin or a carefully placed stick at the back of the players skates always helped.

I didn't make my 'tired' comment because I want to place the blame squarely on Phaneuf's shoulders..but he does deserve a portion of it. As a leader and as the 'top' dman.

And now Dion will know what it takes to close out a game seven. I imagine in his exit interview they talked about conditioning and if he can make progress with that he'll be a Norris candidate again. I wasn't a fan before but he's impressed me this year. He can be very creative with his passes when the Leafs are coming out of their own end.
 

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