Ranking Prospects 2018-19
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https://twitter.com/dcmahiban/status/1035169000957861889
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/8/30/17799992/toronto-maple-leafs-announce-2018-rookie-showcase-roster-montreal-canadiens-ottawa-senators-prospect
Good breakdown of the names on the list, especially the ones we haven't had much knowledge of previously. Most, if not all the 'new' names have been on Dubas'/Gilman's radar in some way shape or form (Solar Bears, Marlies, Greyhounds). Most notable is probably Stefan Leblanc (22 y.o. LD), who went undrafted, but signed a Marlies contract for this coming season.
Obviously, our draft picks are out in force, including Jesper Lindgren who most recently departed the Calder Cup run to work out in Sweden, J.J. Piccinich who was drafted forever ago, hasn't made it yet (basically won't), but is still hanging around, and Rasmus Sandin who was our first rounder this year and indicated a preference for playing in the SHL for the coming season (he's already taken some preseason games with Rogle). It'll be a good chance to see how the 2018 class stacks up with the previous picks.
Dubas using the Soo Greyhounds as a fishing hole is interesting (see CHL import draft invitee Roman Pucek). The optics scream nepotism, but he doesn't seem to care (and it's not like it's his only intake route). Judging from afar with 0 information, I'd say if you personally built up a player identification and development program that you trust and has been effective, yeah, why wouldn't you fish there.
https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/8/30/17799992/toronto-maple-leafs-announce-2018-rookie-showcase-roster-montreal-canadiens-ottawa-senators-prospect
Good breakdown of the names on the list, especially the ones we haven't had much knowledge of previously. Most, if not all the 'new' names have been on Dubas'/Gilman's radar in some way shape or form (Solar Bears, Marlies, Greyhounds). Most notable is probably Stefan Leblanc (22 y.o. LD), who went undrafted, but signed a Marlies contract for this coming season.
Obviously, our draft picks are out in force, including Jesper Lindgren who most recently departed the Calder Cup run to work out in Sweden, J.J. Piccinich who was drafted forever ago, hasn't made it yet (basically won't), but is still hanging around, and Rasmus Sandin who was our first rounder this year and indicated a preference for playing in the SHL for the coming season (he's already taken some preseason games with Rogle). It'll be a good chance to see how the 2018 class stacks up with the previous picks.
Dubas using the Soo Greyhounds as a fishing hole is interesting (see CHL import draft invitee Roman Pucek). The optics scream nepotism, but he doesn't seem to care (and it's not like it's his only intake route). Judging from afar with 0 information, I'd say if you personally built up a player identification and development program that you trust and has been effective, yeah, why wouldn't you fish there.
Can someone tell me if there's a way to turn off phone notifications for non-Nylander related @LeafsPR tweets?
herman
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Coco-puffs
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nutman said:
This thread is labelled prospects. It includes links and discussion regarding prospects and prospect-like lists. The T25U25 that PPP puts out is simply that, the top 25 players in the organization that are under 25. They don't call it a prospects list. Instead of starting a new thread to discuss that specific list from PPP, we've decided to include it in this thread since the majority of the list would be considered prospects. We're sorry if that bothers you so much.
In the game of life aren't we all really just prospects?
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Winnipeg for sure: Scheifele (25), Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Trouba (if they can keep him)
Philly looks very good: Couturier (25), Gostisbehere, Provarov, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim
Columbus: Jones, Werenski, Dubois, Wennberg
Buffalo now: Eichel, Dahlin, Mittelsadt, Reinhart, Nylander (sort of)
Vancouver, still missing top flight D and C but halfway there with: Boeser, Pettersson, Horvat. They?ll still screw it up though.
Vegas has a nice start: Karlsson (25), Tuch, Miller (25), Theodore, Brannstrom, Hague, Suzuki, Glass
There's probably one or two more that I'm less familiar with.
Leafs in comparison: Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Rielly, Liljegren, Dermott, Kapanen/Johnsson/Brown sort of. What really helps the Leafs is the next layer up of veterans are Tavares, Kadri, Gardiner who all still drive results and will for the next 3-4 years at least.
Philly looks very good: Couturier (25), Gostisbehere, Provarov, Konecny, Patrick, Sanheim
Columbus: Jones, Werenski, Dubois, Wennberg
Buffalo now: Eichel, Dahlin, Mittelsadt, Reinhart, Nylander (sort of)
Vancouver, still missing top flight D and C but halfway there with: Boeser, Pettersson, Horvat. They?ll still screw it up though.
Vegas has a nice start: Karlsson (25), Tuch, Miller (25), Theodore, Brannstrom, Hague, Suzuki, Glass
There's probably one or two more that I'm less familiar with.
Leafs in comparison: Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Rielly, Liljegren, Dermott, Kapanen/Johnsson/Brown sort of. What really helps the Leafs is the next layer up of veterans are Tavares, Kadri, Gardiner who all still drive results and will for the next 3-4 years at least.
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Just reading a Star article about Dermott, it was saying the Subbans lad was looking good the "Jordan Subban looked tremendous at the BioSteel camp this week, and could turn heads at the Leafs? camp"
Lets hope he turns out to be a pleasant surprise.
Lets hope he turns out to be a pleasant surprise.
herman
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Coco-puffs said:
I'm going to add a non-semantic argument to this, because it comes up pretty much every year from someone who prefers to draw distinct lines around the NHL and it's worth discussing.
Justin Bourne recently wrote about the distinction between NHL and AHL players.
When we do a prospect ranking, or development program ranking, the ultimate goal is to gauge how healthy the talent pool that is on the upward half of their development curves is because that's the measurement of future success, not delineating whether a player qualifies as a prospect due to NHL time served. And that means taking into account players that have already exceeded the Calder trophy requirements alongside those that have not. Roster decisions are fickle and rife with obvious bias or situational criteria.
