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Do we have any idea on how long he'll be gone? I mean, I just want to know if we're talking weeks or months, or if we have no clue at all?
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Bender said:Bonsixx said:Excellent piece (gasp, I know) by Damien Cox on this so-called parent trap:
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1087673--cox-leaf-braintrust-should-stick-to-hockey
Actually, I wasn't particularly a fan of it and found it a rambling diatribe against the Leafs for having a media policy.
Floyd said:I guess the key thing I can take from that is they've pretty much given up on Gustavsson as a NHL goalie.
Fanatic said:Floyd said:I guess the key thing I can take from that is they've pretty much given up on Gustavsson as a NHL goalie.
I am at work and cannot listen now. Please expand on this part of what you said. Did Burke say anything like that or is this just your take and nothing more?
Fanatic said:Floyd said:I guess the key thing I can take from that is they've pretty much given up on Gustavsson as a NHL goalie.
I am at work and cannot listen now. Please expand on this part of what you said. Did Burke say anything like that or is this just your take and nothing more?
cw said:Fanatic said:Floyd said:I guess the key thing I can take from that is they've pretty much given up on Gustavsson as a NHL goalie.
I am at work and cannot listen now. Please expand on this part of what you said. Did Burke say anything like that or is this just your take and nothing more?
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/11/16/burke_turco/
Burke said the team will consider addressing the goalie position if No. 1 goaltender James Reimer doesn't make progress with his health. Reimer remains out indefinitely and continues to suffer from concussion-like symptoms.
"We're exploring those options. If this (Reimer's injury) doesn't resolve itself in short order, we're going to have a sniff around and see what's there," Burke explained.
"He has persisting concussion-like symptoms. As we divulged from the get-go, he was not concussed but (Reimer) has headaches that persist."
Burke said the team will continue to take a cautious approach with Reimer, based on the league's commitment to protecting the safety of its players.
"Until he's asymptomatic, he cannot do off-ice workouts. Until he completes off-ice workouts, he cannot go on the ice and so on. The protocol for concussion-like symptoms is the same as for concussions.
There's audio in that link as well NSFW
Fanatic said:If your # 1 goalie goes down you turn to your 27 year old back-up who is in his 3rd season in the NHL. If you cannot rely on him it is either because he is not developed enough yet or because he is a bust.
I agree with Floyd. I take from that (as well as the fact that Scrivens has been getting all the starts) that Gus is a bust and his days in Toronto are numbered.
cw said:Fanatic said:If your # 1 goalie goes down you turn to your 27 year old back-up who is in his 3rd season in the NHL. If you cannot rely on him it is either because he is not developed enough yet or because he is a bust.
I agree with Floyd. I take from that (as well as the fact that Scrivens has been getting all the starts) that Gus is a bust and his days in Toronto are numbered.
That's hard to disagree with. Development time is over for Gus. Wilson's butt is on the line. He's going to go with the guy that gives Wilson the best chance to win or pick up points.
Burke also saying that he'll look to acquire another goalie if Reimer continues on the IR pretty much seals it.
Both goalies have .500 pts win%.
Scrivens .904 save% 2.92 GAA
Gus .878 save% 3.78 GAA
Not enough games to be fairly conclusive but Scrivens certainly has a statistical edge now.
cw said:Not enough games to be fairly conclusive but Scrivens certainly has a statistical edge now.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:So Burke's genius idea is to go with Scrivens as the backup? Because he was just as "Gus" as Gus last night.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:So Burke's genius idea is to go with Scrivens as the backup? Because he was just as "Gus" as Gus last night.
Busta Reims said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:So Burke's genius idea is to go with Scrivens as the backup? Because he was just as "Gus" as Gus last night.
Except, with Gustavsson, 2 goals would have become 4 before the Leafs scored their first. Scrivens rebounded last night in a way Gustavsson has yet to show this season.
Busta Reims said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:So Burke's genius idea is to go with Scrivens as the backup? Because he was just as "Gus" as Gus last night.
Except, with Gustavsson, 2 goals would have become 4 before the Leafs scored their first. Scrivens rebounded last night in a way Gustavsson has yet to show this season.
Fanatic said:cw said:Not enough games to be fairly conclusive but Scrivens certainly has a statistical edge now.
That, plus he has more upside simply because he is NOT in his 3rd NHL season.
cw said:Fanatic said:cw said:Not enough games to be fairly conclusive but Scrivens certainly has a statistical edge now.
That, plus he has more upside simply because he is NOT in his 3rd NHL season.
I can cut Gus some slack for his first two seasons with losing his mother and heart ailments. I'm running out of excuses now.
Dunno. Which Scrivens are you watching?Madferret said:Guys, with respect, are you watching the same Ben Scrivens that I am?