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Reimer Injury

Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche) 110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup duty right now.

Reimer earn it?  We named him the starter before the season even began, he went 4-0-1 before injury, how has he suddenly lost the job?  Or am I misunderstanding you here.
 
Optimus Reimer said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

I would rather give him the start against the Bruins.  He is supposed to be our #1 goalie, and the Leafs need to beat the Bruins at some point during the season.  If the Leafs face the Bruins in the playoffs, the Bruins will have the edge knowing they punked the Leafs all season long.

I don't think you can make decisions based on potentials like that at this point in the season, the playoffs are a different beast entirely and are a long, long ways off but I'm glad to see you have the playoff spirit! ;)

There's a reason he's being projected as the back up now, I just can't figure out what it is.
 
Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure
what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche)
110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a
NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup
duty right now.

Nothing much wrong with doing it that way.  As a backup, should the situation require, Reimer will step in.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure
what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche)
110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a
NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup
duty right now.

Nothing much wrong with doing it that way.  As a backup, should the situation require, Reimer will step in.

I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.
 
Zee said:
I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.

Yeah, it's a little confusing. I mean, the one thing I'd hate to see happen is for Reimer's first action back from the injury to be when he's coming in cold and the team's getting killed.

Still, I guess it's something they're willing to chance or don't think is much of an issue.
 
Zee said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure
what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche)
110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a
NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup
duty right now.

Nothing much wrong with doing it that way.  As a backup, should the situation require, Reimer will step in.

I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.

We can stay on the side of caution, no? Would the brass risk further injury to Reimer if Gus went down? I don't think so. That tells me he's ready and my feeling is that Burke/Wilson feel he can earn some of that money as a backup until they are completely comfortable. Let Reimer earn his pay check with the big club since he's getting "big club" money.
 
Sarge said:
Zee said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure
what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche)
110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a
NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup
duty right now.

Nothing much wrong with doing it that way.  As a backup, should the situation require, Reimer will step in.

I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.

We can stay on the side of caution, no? Would the brass risk further injury to Reimer if Gus went down? I don't think so. That tells me he's ready and my feeling is that Burke/Wilson feel he can earn some of that money as a backup until they are completely comfortable. Let Reimer earn his pay check with the big club since he's getting "big club" money.

I still don't get it.  Goalies aren't like roster players coming back from injury where you can "ease" them back into the lineup -- just like Grabovski, giving him 4th line duty coming back from an injury.  A goalie either plays or he sits, there's no in between.  In no way has Gustavsson suddenly established himself as the #1 goalie.  Reimer's record as a Leaf is 24-10-6 and he's now available to play, so you play him.  No sense in even trying to "protect" him against the Bruins since they're currently the best team in the league.  A #1 goalie faces the best teams.
 
Zee said:
Sarge said:
Zee said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Sarge said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure
what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

He could be 100% ready but we're being (sorry for the cliche)
110% sure. From a business standpoint, we're paying him to be a
NHL goaltender so let him earn it in the NHL... Even if it's backup
duty right now.

Nothing much wrong with doing it that way.  As a backup, should the situation require, Reimer will step in.

I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.

We can stay on the side of caution, no? Would the brass risk further injury to Reimer if Gus went down? I don't think so. That tells me he's ready and my feeling is that Burke/Wilson feel he can earn some of that money as a backup until they are completely comfortable. Let Reimer earn his pay check with the big club since he's getting "big club" money.

I still don't get it.  Goalies aren't like roster players coming back from injury where you can "ease" them back into the lineup -- just like Grabovski, giving him 4th line duty coming back from an injury.  A goalie either plays or he sits, there's no in between.  In no way has Gustavsson suddenly established himself as the #1 goalie.  Reimer's record as a Leaf is 24-10-6 and he's now available to play, so you play him.  No sense in even trying to "protect" him against the Bruins since they're currently the best team in the league.  A #1 goalie faces the best teams.

I believe healthy bodies should be made available to play. Designating Reimer as a backup says he's ready. He'll be dressed and ready to go of called upon and there is also value to having him there. I don't see the problem. 
 
Saint Nik said:
Zee said:
I don't understand him being named "backup" in Saturday's game.  Either he's ready to play or he's not.  If he's not ready, why is he backing up?  If Gustavsson goes down with an injury, Reimer comes in.  If the Leafs are at all not sure about playing Reimer, he shouldn't be on the bench.

Yeah, it's a little confusing. I mean, the one thing I'd hate to see happen is for Reimer's first action back from the injury to be when he's coming in cold and the team's getting killed.

Still, I guess it's something they're willing to chance or don't think is much of an issue.

I know, I find that strange  :-\

I mean, it's very possible that Boston has a 3-0 lead on us 10 minutes in.  They've owned us this year.  Why would we want to throw Reimer into that type of situation?

And let's say he comes in because Gustavsson gets injured.  Do we really want Reimer playing his first hockey in 6-7 weeks, late in a tight game, against the Bruins, coming in cold?

I actually can't really comprehend how him backing up makes any sense.  If he's fit to backup, he should be fit to start. 
 
Reimer has missed a lot of time, not starting against the hottest team in the league doesn't strike me as a bad idea, just weird that they would peg him in the back up role but really like some have said, no biggie, the most important things is that he's back and will play at some point soon.
 
Having him as back up means he gets to take warm up and get used to the game day atmosphere and routines again and eases him back in that way rather than perhaps having him start and then relapse.

He had concussion like symptoms, I have no issue with making totally sure he's recovered.

Equally, I could see him get the start and all this talk be a smoke screen - Wilson has done that before with his goalies.
 
Arn said:
He had concussion like symptoms, I have no issue with making totally sure he's recovered.

Having him warm up and sit on the bench in no way makes sure he's recovered.

Arn said:
Equally, I could see him get the start and all this talk be a smoke screen - Wilson has done that before with his goalies.

Agreed, hopefully Wilson is just not saying he'll start to tone down the potential media frenzy before the game.
 
Zee said:
Arn said:
He had concussion like symptoms, I have no issue with making totally sure he's recovered.

Having him warm up and sit on the bench in no way makes sure he's recovered.

I dunno, it's just another small step up. He started out doing very little, then regressed and had to stop doing ice drills altogether for a bit. You don't want to necessarily throw him into a game straight away in case it does cause some kind of regression. You never know with these things.

I'm just thinking out loud on possible reasons, and probably not quite wording it the way I want to!
 
If I was coming back from an injury, I would want to play as soon as I was cleared to, whether it was against the best team or not, it would not matter.  Just put me in there coach.   
 
Arn said:
Zee said:
Arn said:
He had concussion like symptoms, I have no issue with making totally sure he's recovered.

Having him warm up and sit on the bench in no way makes sure he's recovered.

I dunno, it's just another small step up. He started out doing very little, then regressed and had to stop doing ice drills altogether for a bit. You don't want to necessarily throw him into a game straight away in case it does cause some kind of regression. You never know with these things.

I'm just thinking out loud on possible reasons, and probably not quite wording it the way I want to!

I like your second point about Wilson, hopefully it's all a smokescreen and Reimer actually starts.
 
Zee said:
Optimus Reimer said:
Tigger said:
I'd rather they start Reimer against the Rags on Monday, not sure what the benefit of having him on the bench against Boston is.

I would rather give him the start against the Bruins.  He is supposed to be our #1 goalie, and the Leafs need to beat the Bruins at some point during the season.  If the Leafs face the Bruins in the playoffs, the Bruins will have the edge knowing they punked the Leafs all season long.

Kind of like how Ottawa used to punk the Leafs all season long and then lose in the playoffs?  OK, wishful thinking.  ;D

Maybe if the Bruins trade for Lalime.
 
Zee said:
I like your second point about Wilson, hopefully it's all a smokescreen and Reimer actually starts.

Wouldn't be the first time Wilson has shielded his goalies like that this season.
 
Arn said:
I could see him get the start and all this talk be a smoke screen - Wilson has done that before with his goalies.

I think this is right. I see Reimer getting the start come Saturday myself.
 
RedLeaf said:
Arn said:
I could see him get the start and all this talk be a smoke screen - Wilson has done that before with his goalies.

I think this is right. I see Reimer getting the start come Saturday myself.

I don't think so.  We'll see him vs the Rags. 
 

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