Report: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with PHI (Dreger on twitter)

[bustaheims]

I can't believe the agent or Weber has the balls to ask for a NTC NMC clause to be added. Apparently loyalty only works one way despite getting a $114 million guaranteed contract.

Movement restriction clauses aren't about loyalty, they're about being in control of your future (to the extent that you can).

 

[dappleganger]

Nobody wants an unhappy player in their dressing room.

Except Nashville, of course.

Well, I guess the way I'm inclined to look at things there is that Weber must be ok with the idea of staying in Nashville if he gave them the option to match instead of playing out the year and getting to free agency.

He could have asked Nashville to trade his rights. He wanted his money and was tired of the penny pinchers in Nashville.

Nashville must have been a viable option for him and I don't believe people who say he wanted out.

Also, playing in Philly wouldn't be that bad either.

 

[lamajama]

I can't believe the agent or Weber has the balls to ask for a NTC NMC clause to be added. Apparently loyalty only works one way despite getting a $110 million guaranteed contract.

Movement restriction clauses aren't about loyalty, they're about being in control of your future (to the extent that you can).

He's guaranteed $110 million dollars. That takes care of his future. He forced this contract as is his right in the CBA. I still believe he wanted out
of Nashville. Now he has to play the happy camper. Nashville is not trading the guy for quite a few years due to the front-loading and no cash being able to be traded back to Nashville. Nashville demonstrated their loyalty by matching the deal. He could have included a NTC NMC with the Phiily contract offer but didn't. Now Nashville can use the CBA to their benefit. The NTC NTM does not benefit Nashville in any way other than to placate a player who already tried to leave.

As a personal opinion, and a useless one, I think less of Weber now not from the offer sheet attempt but from this request of the NTC NMC. He's got his cake, the icing and the baker's beautiful assistant that put the icing on it. Now he want the baker and his company too.

 

[Kin]

Nashville demonstrated their loyalty by matching the deal.

Come on. Nashville matched out of loyalty? They matched because of what Shea Weber meant to their bottom line.

He could have included a NTC NMC with the Phiily contract offer but didn't.

As mentioned, that doesn't seem to be true.

 

[bustaheims]

He's guaranteed $110 million dollars. That takes care of his future.

There's a lot more to taking care of one's future than money alone. And, I didn't say taking care of his future, I said taking control of it. That's a significant difference.

 

[lamajama]

He's guaranteed $110 million dollars. That takes care of his future.

There's a lot more to taking care of one's future than money alone. And, I didn't say taking care of his future, I said taking control of it. That's a significant difference.

Yes I realize the difference but he still has a whole lot of control. Kind of like how Carter had control in Columbus. The whole deck is tilted towards the player if he's a superstar like Weber. If that kind of player has the MTC NMC he can still waive it regardless at any time. The team can't touch it at all. It's extremely one-sided. I just happen to think that paying the guy $110 is enough to show they want him - granted not for that much money I'm sure...

 

[bustaheims]

Yes I realize the difference but he still has a whole lot of control.

With out some form of movement restriction, the only control he has is whether or not he comes in to work every day. Everything would be out of his hands.

 

[Frank E]

I think what this situation may show is that Weber thinks that the "career" contracts may be a thing of the past in the new CBA.

This was the only way for him to ensure he got one of those deals under the wire, and foregoing an NMC/NTC was well worth it.

I never got the impression that he wanted out of Nashville, but I did get the impression that he wanted the super term contract that Nashville wasn't going to produce otherwise.

 

[lamajama]

Nashville demonstrated their loyalty by matching the deal.

Come on. Nashville matched out of loyalty? They matched because of what Shea Weber meant to their bottom line.

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If you think matching this deal is improving Nashville's bottom line I would say that you're incorrect. Maybe in Year 8 (dart throw...) or so but not in the next number of years. I think they matched for the sake of warding off anymore offer sheets - which I grant you could be considered a part of their "bottom line".

 

[Kin]

If you think matching this deal is improving Nashville's bottom line I would say that you're incorrect. Maybe in Year 8 (dart throw...) or so but not in the next number of years. I think they matched for the sake of warding off anymore offer sheets - which I grant you could be considered a part of their "bottom line".

I think it helps their bottom line when compared with what they would have faced if they'd let him go. Letting him go would have devastated their team.

Either way though, they certainly didn't match because of "loyalty". They were as self-interested as he was.

 

[Bullfrog]

I think what this situation may show is that Weber thinks that the "career" contracts may be a thing of the past in the new CBA.

This was the only way for him to ensure he got one of those deals under the wire, and foregoing an NMC/NTC was well worth it.

I never got the impression that he wanted out of Nashville, but I did get the impression that he wanted the super term contract that Nashville wasn't going to produce otherwise.

I agree with this. As busta stated, it was a way to control his future.