Rick Nash potentially available

[EJ]

A Rick Nash winter classic jersey would be super sweet.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

do we really need nash though?  .like if they were giving him away ...sure ...but it still feels more like the leafs need a big center ....not a winger ..at least i think that's where their limited assets should be directed

 

[Redleaf]

do we really need nash though?  .like if they were giving him away ...sure ...but it still feels more like the leafs need a big center ....not a winger ..at least i think that's where their limited assets should be directed

I dunno. How good would a line of Nash-Grabbo-Kulemin look? Plus Bozak's starting to look really good on that top line. (with a good cap hit)

 

[Champ Kind]

do we really need nash though?  .like if they were giving him away ...sure ...but it still feels more like the leafs need a big center ....not a winger ..at least i think that's where their limited assets should be directed

If Burke believes a deal for Nash will help the team then, yes, the Leafs need him. 

 

[Newbury]

If we were getting Nash, I'd hope CBJ takes back Connolly, which is probably unlikely.

I'd have no problem doing something like Kadri, Aulie/Blacker, MacArthur, Connolly, and a 1st. But also, they'd probably get a better package somewhere else.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

do we really need nash though?  .like if they were giving him away ...sure ...but it still feels more like the leafs need a big center ....not a winger ..at least i think that's where their limited assets should be directed

I dunno. How good would a line of Nash-Grabbo-Kulemin look? Plus Bozak's starting to look really good on that top line.

still don't think bozak is great in his own end ..and i still get the feeling you need someone on that top line to throw his weight around more ...give kessel a greater sense of protection ...especially once you get into the playoffs

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

The talk of re-signing Grabovski and others seems to rely on us cutting some of the bloated contracts from our team, these are the same contracts people are talking of shifting to make room for Nash. 

So if we get Nash does that mean we probably wont re-sign Grabbo, cause that 7.8 million coming back sure makes it seem that way.

 

[Redleaf]

The talk of re-signing Grabovski and others seems to rely on us cutting some of the bloated contracts from our team, these are the same contracts people are talking of shifting to make room for Nash. 

So if we get Nash does that mean we probably wont re-sign Grabbo, cause that 7.8 million coming back sure makes it seem that way.

If we were to somehow get Nash, as unlikely as that seems, I think Burkie finds a way to make it work. I'm sure Connolly, MacCarthur and Lombardi (if possible) would quickly go on the trading block to free up some cap space. I think Burke still wants to have that distinguished top 6, bottom 6 he talks about when asked about his preference to structure his teams.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

See I'd agree Red, but he's also said he likes this group quite a lot and wants to tinker as oppose to blowing it up, that much turnover is a pretty drastic change.

 

[Redleaf]

See I'd agree Red, but he's also said he likes this group quite a lot and wants to tinker as oppose to blowing it up, that much turnover is a pretty drastic change.

Where did you get blowing it up from that?

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Lombardi, Connolly, Armstrong, Komisarek, MacArthur, Schenn.

Some or all of the above, not to mention other young assets that might go in a trade, would have to be moved on to accommodate acquiring Nash and re-signing Grabo and Kulemin.

 

[Mack674]

Someone asked if we need him,
When a player like Nash becomes available, you have to at least attempt to fit him onto your team. He would be better than almost every forward on the team. Guys like this are not available often.

Unless the asking price is outrageous, and even then, I wouldnt mind taking a shot at him. It would be nice to get the big first line center, yeah, but Sundin isnt coming out of retirement anytime soon and unless Getzlaf or Staal or someone suddenly become available then well.... next best thing to improve the team.

It's not like we would be choosing Nash over Getzlaf or something.... if its Nash or nothing, im certainly going to hope Burke makes a run at him.

I've gotta think he's partial to Toronto, and maybe the Rangers/Bruins. It would be dumb of either the Bruins or Rangers to make that trade though in my opinion. They would be sending considerable assets the other way out of their current teams where one is dominating the eastern conference and the other just won a stanley cup.

That being said, Glen Sather is no stranger to bone headed moves so it would not surprise me.

I still like the Leafs chances of landing him though, there's a real possibility. I trust Burke to make the right call.

 

[Mack674]

Lombardi, Connolly, Armstrong, Komisarek, MacArthur, Schenn.

Some or all of the above, not to mention other young assets that might go in a trade, would have to be moved on to accommodate acquiring Nash and re-signing Grabo and Kulemin.

It does seem tricky when you put it that way, but there are guys working for MLSE that get paid big bucks to make this stuff happen.

I think realistically the best package Burke can/will offer would be something like a combination (all or some of) 1st rounders, Schenn, Kulemin and MacArthur. For arguments sake, Schenn, Kulemin and 1st 2012 and 1st 2013 (conditional). Might take more than that actually but we'll see.

As for the contracts on Komisarek and Grabovskis (youve got to assume thats gonna be expensive) I dunno what to say there.

 

[Redleaf]

Lombardi, Connolly, Armstrong, Komisarek, MacArthur, Schenn.

Some or all of the above, not to mention other young assets that might go in a trade, would have to be moved on to accommodate acquiring Nash and re-signing Grabo and Kulemin.

I never mentioned Armstrong or Komi's name in my scenario. As far as the rest, except Schenn, how many of those players were really considered long term pieces?

 

[Mr. Leaf]

I've got a friend from Detroit, and he tells me the rumour there is that Columbus is asking for Filppula, Smith, and a first rounder.  Does that seem as laughable to anyone else as it does to me?

 

[iwas11in67]

At least we are not outbidding 29 other teams right now. The short list helps us a bit and i think our only real competition is LA.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Lombardi, Connolly, Armstrong, Komisarek, MacArthur, Schenn.

Some or all of the above, not to mention other young assets that might go in a trade, would have to be moved on to accommodate acquiring Nash and re-signing Grabo and Kulemin.

I never mentioned Armstrong or Komi's name in my scenario. As far as the rest, except Schenn, how many of those players were really considered long term pieces?

I don't think they are considered long term pieces and I'm not really picking a bone with you, what I'm saying is that Burke has spoken about liking this group and only tinkering as oppose to major surgery.

I think to keep Grabo, Kulemin and add Nash would require turning over at least a quarter of the roster, which goes against what has been said.

 

[bustaheims]

At least we are not outbidding 29 other teams right now. The short list helps us a bit and i think our only real competition is LA.

The problem is still that any offer will have to be one that actually convinces Columbus to move Nash, which, despite him being "available," is not something they have any reason to feel pressure to get done any time soon.

 

[iwas11in67]

At least we are not outbidding 29 other teams right now. The short list helps us a bit and i think our only real competition is LA.

The problem is still that any offer will have to be one that actually convinces Columbus to move Nash, which, despite him being "available," is not something they have any reason to feel pressure to get done any time soon.

Yes but whats to say that his short list will grow in the off season.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If we were getting Nash, I'd hope CBJ takes back Connolly, which is probably unlikely.

I don't think it's too unlikely. Columbus will be hard-pressed to find a team that is willing to take on $7.8mil in salary (especially for next seasons cap). And while the prime assets going back to Columbus will of course carry some salary, it likely won't be enough to make things work cap wise. I think they'll almost certainly have to take back some sort of heavy contract if they move Nash.