So the debate begins: Matthews vs. Laine
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Some highlights of Matthews and the type of game he plays.
https://streamable.com/i972
https://streamable.com/i972
Heroic Shrimp
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Deebo said:
So the debate begins: Matthews vs. Puljujarvi
Well if the service that says Lawson Crouse should have gone 4th overall last year says so...
edit: and had Reinhart over Ekblad in 2014...
edit: and had Reinhart over Ekblad in 2014...
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CarltonTheBear said:
Well, we'd better not take Matthews if ISS likes him.
McGarnagle
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I'm guessing the CBC draft interview knocked Laine down to 3rd. 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, none of them of course. Which is why really we should be taking them all with a grain of salt. The people contributing to the actual draft selections aren't the same people contributing to these scouting services. So when we hear from good hockey people like Bob McKenzie that some NHL scouts, and some head European scouts, feel like Laine might be the better option than Matthews, I take it a little more seriously than Matthews being the consensus 1 on the scouting services.
Don't get me wrong, I still personally take Matthews #1 every day of the week. I just think we're shrugging off the notion of NHL scouts liking Laine more a little too easily. Scouts can be wrong too, but if Mark Hunter is one of those people on team-Laine then I'd take notice. We all heard the story of how the Oilers took Yakupov 1st overall basically solely because he was the "consensus" pick, even though their entire scouting team didn't like him.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I don't think anyone knows why they went with Yakupov other than Tambellini, Lowe, MacTavish and Katz who made the final decision in a private meeting. The scouting staff voted amongst themselves 9 to 2 in favour of Murray over Yakupov but the above group met after to make the final decision, but it's not known why they went with Yakupov (other than the Oilers being the Oilers).
Tigger said:
It says that a group of NHL scouts can sometimes a) have a different opinion than the consensus belief of the public NHL scouting services out there, and b) could end up being right. What happened next is the Oilers issue.
CarltonTheBear said:
Ok but Yakupov is kind of a weak tea 'there is debate over who the number one pick is' example, I mean, Burke said we got our number one that year, I wanted Galchenyuk. This is all moot, secretly Hunter is dreaming about taking a Matthew, not a Matthews.
Seriously though, the Matthews buzz isn't new or only coming from scouting services, he's clearly number one.
Zee
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Why Drafting Patrik Laine 1st Overall is Ridiculous
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/5/4/why-drafting-patrik-laine-1st-overall-is-ridiculous
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/5/4/why-drafting-patrik-laine-1st-overall-is-ridiculous
Highlander
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Thanks for that post, I was a big fan of Laine, not that this has changed in the least, but Matthews has to be our guy, we need the #1 C that left when Sundin went to Norway to polish his Rolls.
Zee said:
Again, not to take anything away from Matthews because, again, I'd draft him 1st overall, but I wouldn't really use NHLe when dealing with leagues like the NLA. There's just not nearly enough data there to get an accurate read on how a player's numbers would translate from there to the NHL because there hasn't been enough players to go from the Swiss leagues to the NHL. Even most of the Swiss players in the NHL didn't play there. The fact that NHLe would rate it above the Finnish league alone seems off.