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CarltonTheBear said:
It's pretty nuts that not too long ago we were talking about drafting 10th-12th. The team really pulled through here.
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Yeah. This isn't even a small slump we're talking about. That's 30% of the season. Take out the 10-1-1 streak they had, and they're 13-27-3. This stretch is pretty representative of what this team actually is.
 
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
4-19-1, guys. 4-19-1. That's how you tank!
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It's pretty nuts that not too long ago we were talking about drafting 10th-12th. The team really pulled through here.
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Goes to show that there is a lot of heart on the roster and a lot of guys who want to see this team improve.
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It's really too bad we'll have to trade them all. That'll be hard for players and fans alike.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
It's pretty nuts that not too long ago we were talking about drafting 10th-12th. The team really pulled through here.
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Yeah. This isn't even a small slump we're talking about. That's 30% of the season. Take out the 10-1-1 streak they had, and they're 13-27-3. This stretch is pretty representative of what this team actually is.
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Which would have them on a more tank-worthy 55-point pace.  Much better than the torrid 74-point pace they're on now.  8)
 
Looks like MLSE are on the Tank train too

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-shanahans-scorched-earth-leafs-plan-wins-mlse-support/article22938348/
 
Arn said:
Looks like MLSE are on the Tank train too

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-shanahans-scorched-earth-leafs-plan-wins-mlse-support/article22938348/
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Interesting. I wonder how much winning the lottery would change that. I could get behind a slow rebuild, but McDavid would definitely be able to accelerate those plans by quite a bit.

But it's fun to think about what a full-blown rebuild could bring this team. Start with a core of Rielly, Nylander, Gardiner, Kadri, JVR. Add top-5 draft picks this season and probably next season. Add an elite prospect from a Kessel trade. Plus returns of varying values from Franson, Phaneuf, Lupul, Bozak. We're definitely talking about a lot of futures and unknowns there but that's not too shabby.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Arn said:
Looks like MLSE are on the Tank train too

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/kelly-shanahans-scorched-earth-leafs-plan-wins-mlse-support/article22938348/
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Interesting. I wonder how much winning the lottery would change that. I could get behind a slow rebuild, but McDavid would definitely be able to accelerate those plans by quite a bit.

But it's fun to think about what a full-blown rebuild could bring this team. Start with a core of Rielly, Nylander, Gardiner, Kadri, JVR. Add top-5 draft picks this season and probably next season. Add an elite prospect from a Kessel trade. Plus returns of varying values from Franson, Phaneuf, Lupul, Bozak. We're definitely talking about a lot of futures and unknowns there but that's not too shabby.
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I want to believe the article but I'm really weary of journalists not named Mirtle...
 
best case scenario for everyone involved...leafs win the draft lottery.

Mcdavid to the leafs
eichel to the sabres

same division and theres your next generation ovie/crosby thing

would be pretty sweet.
 
Hey guys.  Long time, no talk. How are you enjoying the season  so far? :P

Seriously though. Chin up. A legitimate rebuild can be fun too. Let's see what happenes.
 
Bender said:
I want to believe the article but I'm really weary of journalists not named Mirtle...
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I'm pretty sure Cathal Kelly lives in Leiweke's basement, so while he's a crappy writer and journalist that particular information is probably correct.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
I want to believe the article but I'm really weary of journalists not named Mirtle...
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I'm pretty sure Cathal Kelly lives in Leiweke's basement, so while he's a crappy writer and journalist that particular information is probably correct.
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He writes in the piece that Nonis knew they were icing a team that was bad and couldn't sustain their play.  Kind of goes against all the moves Nonis made/tried to make.  Tried to sign Bolland, tried to trade for Gorges, signed Robidas, said he thought they were in the mix for playoffs, etc.
 
Potvin29 said:
He writes in the piece that Nonis knew they were icing a team that was bad and couldn't sustain their play.  Kind of goes against all the moves Nonis made/tried to make.  Tried to sign Bolland, tried to trade for Gorges, signed Robidas, said he thought they were in the mix for playoffs, etc.
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Right, and that's where the "crappy writer and journalist" part comes from. In return for access into what goes on in the boardroom he has to write stuff like that. He's pretty much the Darren Dreger of print journalists.
 
Gardiner51 said:
Berger talks about a possible Kessel to Nashville...
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Nashville's been a suggested trade target for Phil for awhile now. Also Howard hasn't really been relevant for like almost a decade now, I wouldn't put any stock into what he says.
 
"It may not feel like it right now, but this is a good thing. This, right here, may be the most realistically hopeful time to be a Toronto Maple Leafs fan in a generation."

Those two sentences sum up my feelings pretty well, whether or not the details in the article (such as the comments about Nonis) are accurate.
 
Yes Phil is in a funk, the team is a mess. Give him Mcdavid or Eishel to play with. It is my firm belief you don't trade away the best (one of the best) pure sniper in the league (ever).
They have enough other assests to assist in a rebuild.
 
Gardiner51 said:
Berger talks about a possible Kessel to Nashville...
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Berger talks about a lot of things. Very few of them actually happen. He's up there with Bill Watters in terms of being a has-been. Just not relevant or connected anymore.
 
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