hockeyfan1
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Potvin29 said:
They're still tough to beat though, heartbreaker and all.
The 2012-2013 Toronto Raptors thread: My Name is Jonas
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They're still tough to beat though, heartbreaker and all.
The Raptors have signed free agent F Mickael Pietrus. He gives us some depth at the Raptros' weakest position right now, even when Landry Fields isn't injured. The Frenchman can play good, even great defense at times. Lacks the skillset to really contribute offensively (6.9 PPG last season) but it's not for lack of effort. Pietrus is a nice addition that improves this team.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/29/report-mickael-pietrus-to-sign-with-the-raptors/
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/29/report-mickael-pietrus-to-sign-with-the-raptors/
hockeyfan1
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After having lost the last 10 out of 11 games, including a recent 131-99 shellacking at the hands of the Utah Jazz, it's been nothing but frustration, frustration, frustration for GM Colangelo...
?It?s not a comfortable situation for anybody,? he said. ?We are obviously mired in a funk. The team took some pretty devastating blows early and often in the season. It has resulted in this situation, but this situation is, I have to think from all standards, unacceptable. It?s disappointing. It?s embarrassing, but this is where we find ourselves."
?I don?t believe this is a talent issue,? he said. ?I think it?s a lack of focus, attention to detail, consistency of competing. We have shown flashes of very good basketball, just not good enough to pull out games when we need to pull them out.
?On paper we have improved this basketball team. So I think you have to look at this and say that we have to look internally and make this right with what we have. It?s not necessarily going to be solved with a trade or another acquisition. You could argue the addition of Mickael Pietrus was an upgrade and he has given us something in two or three of the four games he has played in.
?...this is about making it right and it?s far from over. There is a lot of time left in this basketball season. I have actually experienced personally worse situations and made the playoffs. I am not suggesting that was the end goal, that?s what we wanted to do, we wanted to compete for the playoffs, but it was clearly something that was not to be expected."
?The ultimate irony here, though, is last year we were expected to lose, maybe even wanted to lose, and we couldn?t lose (at least not enough),? he said. ?We won games. This year we are expected to win, and want to win and need to win and we can?t. It?s obviously something we are addressing and will continue to look and evaluate but 4-16 is unacceptable.?
Full story at:
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/08/state-of-raptors-embarrassing-colangelo:
?It?s not a comfortable situation for anybody,? he said. ?We are obviously mired in a funk. The team took some pretty devastating blows early and often in the season. It has resulted in this situation, but this situation is, I have to think from all standards, unacceptable. It?s disappointing. It?s embarrassing, but this is where we find ourselves."
?I don?t believe this is a talent issue,? he said. ?I think it?s a lack of focus, attention to detail, consistency of competing. We have shown flashes of very good basketball, just not good enough to pull out games when we need to pull them out.
?On paper we have improved this basketball team. So I think you have to look at this and say that we have to look internally and make this right with what we have. It?s not necessarily going to be solved with a trade or another acquisition. You could argue the addition of Mickael Pietrus was an upgrade and he has given us something in two or three of the four games he has played in.
?...this is about making it right and it?s far from over. There is a lot of time left in this basketball season. I have actually experienced personally worse situations and made the playoffs. I am not suggesting that was the end goal, that?s what we wanted to do, we wanted to compete for the playoffs, but it was clearly something that was not to be expected."
?The ultimate irony here, though, is last year we were expected to lose, maybe even wanted to lose, and we couldn?t lose (at least not enough),? he said. ?We won games. This year we are expected to win, and want to win and need to win and we can?t. It?s obviously something we are addressing and will continue to look and evaluate but 4-16 is unacceptable.?
Full story at:
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/08/state-of-raptors-embarrassing-colangelo:
Brian Glennie
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hockeyfan1 said:
Colangelo kind of reminds me of Burke.
Corn Flake
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Fire everybody.
I've had it with this team. I'm done.
Going into this season I had so much excitement and so much enthusiasm for the Raptors. I hadn't watched basketball much in recent years, but because the NHL playoffs were so bad last season after round one I watched the NBA playoffs instead. Basketball almost every day for a month re-kindled my fan-interest in the game, and I've since become a hardcore basketball fan, but unfortunately that has to coincide with the worst Raptors season ever.
How did I drink the kool-aid? How did I believe that a team that won 22 games last season (which most people said was overachieving), was going to win 40 this year and contend for the playoffs? We were sold a playoff contending team but this crop of assholes is far from it. Our two supposed best players are Lowry and Bargnani, one oft-injured and the other is soft and painfully inconsistent. This team forgot how to play defense, still doesn't know how to rebound, and can't play on the road. For goodness sakes, we signed Pietrus in the middle of the season and he got off a plane from France and jumped right into our starting lineup after being a career-long bench player. Who else does that but the Raptors? To top it all off, we don't even have our own first round pick unless we finish in the bottom 3 (lottery protected). Ugh!
Dwayne Casey doesn't look like the coach he was last year. Bryan Colangelo has assembled a 29th place team 7 years into his tenure in what was supposed to be a "contending year" for the team. I'd stick with Casey for now on a short leash, but get Colangelo's ass out the door. He has been nothing short of an abject failure. Get an interim guy in here to caretake the team and prepare them for the next GM this off-season. Sell off all our tradeable pieces apart from our young core, which means Bargnani, Kleiza, Fields, Calderon, and others should all be gone. Keep Ed Davis, DeRozan, Valanciunas, Ross, and rebuild the rest. It's time to start all over again, again.
Going into this season I had so much excitement and so much enthusiasm for the Raptors. I hadn't watched basketball much in recent years, but because the NHL playoffs were so bad last season after round one I watched the NBA playoffs instead. Basketball almost every day for a month re-kindled my fan-interest in the game, and I've since become a hardcore basketball fan, but unfortunately that has to coincide with the worst Raptors season ever.
How did I drink the kool-aid? How did I believe that a team that won 22 games last season (which most people said was overachieving), was going to win 40 this year and contend for the playoffs? We were sold a playoff contending team but this crop of assholes is far from it. Our two supposed best players are Lowry and Bargnani, one oft-injured and the other is soft and painfully inconsistent. This team forgot how to play defense, still doesn't know how to rebound, and can't play on the road. For goodness sakes, we signed Pietrus in the middle of the season and he got off a plane from France and jumped right into our starting lineup after being a career-long bench player. Who else does that but the Raptors? To top it all off, we don't even have our own first round pick unless we finish in the bottom 3 (lottery protected). Ugh!
Dwayne Casey doesn't look like the coach he was last year. Bryan Colangelo has assembled a 29th place team 7 years into his tenure in what was supposed to be a "contending year" for the team. I'd stick with Casey for now on a short leash, but get Colangelo's ass out the door. He has been nothing short of an abject failure. Get an interim guy in here to caretake the team and prepare them for the next GM this off-season. Sell off all our tradeable pieces apart from our young core, which means Bargnani, Kleiza, Fields, Calderon, and others should all be gone. Keep Ed Davis, DeRozan, Valanciunas, Ross, and rebuild the rest. It's time to start all over again, again.
OldTimeHockey
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So I take it you're not high on the Raptors winning it all?
No big free agent is going to sign in Toronto. The players see nothing but a losing team in a foreign country. The only real way to build this team to draft high, what else are you going to do? Colangelo didn't get young assets for Bosh, he traded away Roy Hibbert and others for Jermaine O'neal, and even traded away this year's 1st round pick unless we finish in the bottom 3.OldTimeHockey said:
The season is lost already. We must tank to ensure we keep our 1st rounder and go from there. There's a decent core in place - Valanciunas, DeRozan, Lowry, Davis, Ross. What it lacks is a star, and the only to get one is through the draft. I'd rather tank and build a future contending team, not scratch my way to 8th and a 1st round obliteration by the Heat.
maplesyrup
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For some reason, my daughter has taken an interest so one of her Christmas presents will be me taking her to a game - the pair of tickets which came in the mail today. I can't believe I'm actually spending money on these clowns but hey, I suppose for my daughter's sake I can show some support. - Even if they're the suckiest team that ever sucked in this town.
Corn Flake
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Rob L said:
TFC just called for you....
Corn Flake
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I just assumed that Stefanski will take over for Colangelo whenever the board stops believing his tales.
maplesyrup
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Corn Flake said:
Well, okay but you'll forgive me for forgetting sometimes that they exist, won't you?
maplesyrup
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Nik V. Debs said:
World's best sports fans in that nobody (at least that I know anyway) hasn't lit themselves on fire and jumped in front of a streetcar?
Corn Flake
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Nik V. Debs said:
*bangs head on desk*
I really for the sake of our pride, we Torontonians are at the tail end of a very long drought, much like what Boston went through and came out of about 8-10 years ago. They were always the "worst sports city".
Sure doesn't feel like the tail end though.
................Oh right, the Argos.
Corn Flake
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skippy said:
Good.. I wish I was more of a supporter and could have enjoyed it more.
Glad for those who were and did.
So a few posts up on this page I tore the Raptors a good one. That was just over a week ago. Since then, they've gone on to win 5 in a row. 7 of their next 8 games are against non-playoff teams. Could it be possible that we climb back into the playoff race? All of a sudden, I have hope.