The Official 2011/2012 Armchair GM thread
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maplesyrup
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Scot4bz said:
No way L.A. even considers that. Well, at least I wouldn't. Franchise defensmen don't come along that often. The only way I'd move him is for a young franchise forward (in the mold of say Stamkos or Tavares or Duchene) though I still might like Doughty the most of those 4.
Britishbulldog
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Dreger said today on TSN that Burke is looking for a top forward that has some size and a track record of making an impact but it probably won't happen possibly until around November. He mentions that Burke is will to trade some of the Leafs young talent to make it happen.
Here's the stuff that I think about sometimes when I can't sleep.
I am curious what the forwards roles would be on the Leafs and how Burke might see them regarding assets to trade:
Connolly and Grabovski are the 2 top 2nd line centers for now with similar skill and point production possibilities IMO. Grabovski's contract ends this year and he should be able to use Connolly's $4.75 MIL contract as a measuring stick for his own new contract.
Connolly's contract ends the same time that 1st line center Getzlaf becomes a UFA....just saying.
I see MacArthur and Lombardi with similar contributions (20 ish goals) but slightly different skills and both to highly paid for the 3rd line. Does Kadri also compare to and have a maximum potential of their offensive talent? 3rd or 2nd line?
Kulemin is solid 2nd line player and I suspect will also use Connolly's contract as a starting point in negotiations at the end of the season.
Lupul is a 20 ish goal player with a small feisty side. Could Frattin replace him in a year? Burke seems to really like Lupul so the Leafs might be stuck with him for a long time at $4.25 MIL.
I feel that Armstrong is way over paid to be an 15 ish goal agitator that can skate and throw cheap hits. Detroit never pays their similar 3rd line players close to Armstrong's $3 MIL. Hopefully Biggs can replace Armstrong 2 seasons from now in 2013 on the 3rd line with the same offensive abilities but also with the skill of fighting.
That leaves a 4th line with hopefully guys who can handle themselves and score 15 - 20 points each. Last year Devane scored 19 goals and 19 assists in 63 games racking up over 100 PIMs.
Soooo....
Nov Trade (Clowe type player?) - Connolly for 2 years then $7.8 MIL player? - Kessel
Kulemin - Grabovski - MacArthur/Lombardi/Lupul then Frattin?
Kadri - Bozak - Armstrong then Biggs?
4th line guys
Depending how Frattin develops there might be 2 extra 2nd line forwards available BUT I don't think many want to risk a trade for Lombardi so it might be MacArthur and Lupul who are expendable with a couple of dmen in trades.
Here's the stuff that I think about sometimes when I can't sleep.
I am curious what the forwards roles would be on the Leafs and how Burke might see them regarding assets to trade:
Connolly and Grabovski are the 2 top 2nd line centers for now with similar skill and point production possibilities IMO. Grabovski's contract ends this year and he should be able to use Connolly's $4.75 MIL contract as a measuring stick for his own new contract.
Connolly's contract ends the same time that 1st line center Getzlaf becomes a UFA....just saying.
I see MacArthur and Lombardi with similar contributions (20 ish goals) but slightly different skills and both to highly paid for the 3rd line. Does Kadri also compare to and have a maximum potential of their offensive talent? 3rd or 2nd line?
Kulemin is solid 2nd line player and I suspect will also use Connolly's contract as a starting point in negotiations at the end of the season.
Lupul is a 20 ish goal player with a small feisty side. Could Frattin replace him in a year? Burke seems to really like Lupul so the Leafs might be stuck with him for a long time at $4.25 MIL.
I feel that Armstrong is way over paid to be an 15 ish goal agitator that can skate and throw cheap hits. Detroit never pays their similar 3rd line players close to Armstrong's $3 MIL. Hopefully Biggs can replace Armstrong 2 seasons from now in 2013 on the 3rd line with the same offensive abilities but also with the skill of fighting.
That leaves a 4th line with hopefully guys who can handle themselves and score 15 - 20 points each. Last year Devane scored 19 goals and 19 assists in 63 games racking up over 100 PIMs.
Soooo....
Nov Trade (Clowe type player?) - Connolly for 2 years then $7.8 MIL player? - Kessel
Kulemin - Grabovski - MacArthur/Lombardi/Lupul then Frattin?
Kadri - Bozak - Armstrong then Biggs?
4th line guys
Depending how Frattin develops there might be 2 extra 2nd line forwards available BUT I don't think many want to risk a trade for Lombardi so it might be MacArthur and Lupul who are expendable with a couple of dmen in trades.
bustaheims
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Deebo said:
Getzlaf and Perry will both potentially hit the UFA market in 2013 and Anaheim isn't exactly rolling in dough right now. They might not be able to afford to keep them both, and, they could very well prioritize Perry.
I am actually really starting to appreciate the value that Armstrong brings on the third line. For the leafs right now, I certainly feel his 3 million is justified and I would reup it (I can't remember his age though right now). Armstrong has the ability to maintain puck position on the boards under great pressure - the play rarely dies with him in the offensive zone. He also plays well defensively through all three zones. He has the ability to take the puck away from guys on the other team, like few other leafs can. I would be completely shocked if any of the leafs prospects coming up would be able to replicate these skills in the next couple of years.
With Marc Staal, leading rangers dman in icetime last year, suffering from concussion symptoms is there a possible opportunity to trade with the rangers to upgrade our forwards? Is there a fit? Could something like gunnarson for stepan make sense if the rangers get off to a slow start? My impression was that the rangers d was young and thin even before the Staal injury.
princedpw said:
I like your thinking. They have a lot of good young forwards (Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, etc) and obviously have Richards and Gaborik on their first line so they are pretty deep up front. Stepan might be odd man out (of their top 6).
On the surface it seems like a fair deal. 2nd line type forward for a 2nd pairing type d-man. Age/Money are similar.
It's not something I immediately pull the trigger on (as I'd like to explore Gunnarsson + Kadri + etc for a top line player) but it's certainly something to consider heavily given our D depth and their O depth.
bustaheims
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Bender said:
Damien Cox says a lot of things.
Bender said:
The Leafs must be trying to monopolize the small center market!
43.8% faceoff win% (2nd most faceoffs on Oilers). Team worst -17. He can score some.
On his own, doesn't make much sense to me on the basis of need. We have plenty of little/lightish speedy guys who can score something close enough to Gagner.
Maybe as part of something coming back in a bigger deal where we send them a center and get a fair sized winger/center back ... (one can dream ... but I can't figure out something quickly that they have, makes sense or is realistic)