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The Official Complaint Thread!

Bullfrog said:
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.
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If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.
 
I always let my 100 pound dog answer the door with me. He can sense whether it's a wanted person: Purolator/UPS guy, friend of my son, Mailman with a pkg etc; or if it's a not-wanted person: religious tripe, door to door sales, and worst of all, those damn jerks with the 'water heater/gas sales" (For the record, you idiots, we OWN our water heater, and there is no gas in the house). And he lets them know. In no uncertain terms.

My favourite exchange ever was the obnoxious jerk who actually stuck his foot in the door when I went to close it, and said something about me absolutely having to hear him out. Then he TOLD me to put the dog in the back. And I said "No, he LIVES here, YOU'RE the trespasser." I suppose I sounded a little scared/ticked and Miko just let him have it, snarling, baring his teeth, getting his hackles up etc. I glared at the guy and he backed off a bit, though he still had his foot in the door. I said "You're a good boy, Miko...Good dog..." and moved out of the way so the dog could advance to the door and I guess the guy finally got a clue when Miko let out a really low warning growl like I've never heard before. He KNEW this man was unwanted. I slammed the door, and the dog got hugs and pats and treats.

If I can see that I don't know who's at the door, I won't answer it, but this was a young guy (didn't see the damn clipboard til after) so I thought it might be one of my son's friends, Grrrrrr,
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.
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If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.
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Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.
 
Bullfrog said:
Peter D. said:
Door-to-door Jehovah's witnesses.

Had this pretty lady come to our door with her son and another friend. Said she was promoting good health. Being the nice guy, I figured I'd just take the pamphlet out of pity. Found out after they left they also handed one of "those" pamphlets. Immediately to the recycling bin it went. I wanted to find them in the neighborhood to tell her off. Daughter wouldn't co-operate to come in the car to come with me.
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Tell her off for doing what? It's not like it's laced with poison. You made the choice to throw it in the recycling, I wouldn't really think anything else of it beyond that.

It's not nice that they deceived you, but I wouldn't let it get to you.
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I know I let it get to me more than it should have. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Oddly enough, had she flat-out handed a Jehovah's pamphlet, I would have been less responsive. Was a slimy move on her part I found. Maybe that's the only way she'll get people to look at it? I wish I realized what it was just after her leaving so I could hand it back to her. She had this fake "got him" smile looking back.

And after carefully looking, the first few pages were about good health, then all the religious stuff took over.

This is coming from one who believes in religion too. I just don't like people forcing (I really don't consider door-to-door soliciting passing on awareness/knowledge) their religion on to others.
 
Bullfrog said:
Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.
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Aggressive or misleading proselytizing may not strike you as a big deal and, accordingly, you're free to be as polite as you like. I wouldn't presume your view to be universal though.
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
perhaps I'm wrong, but his post makes it sound like she promoted good health with pamphlet and ALSO a Watchtower publication.
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If that's true, that's equally dubious as far as I'm concerned. It's using one thing as a means to promote something most people would consider to be a very different thing. It's knowingly and intentionally masking their attempt at proselytizing.
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It was always more fun to play with it to me, hanging a cross upside down before they came in while quoting Baba Yaga did the trick... and I had to go get a cross... ;)
 
Nik? said:
Bullfrog said:
Dubious or not, it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned and the response presented towards the act is excesssive. Don't sweat the small stuff, right? And this is small stuff.
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Aggressive or misleading proselytizing may not strike you as a big deal and, accordingly, you're free to be as polite as you like. I wouldn't presume your view to be universal though.
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I wouldn't presume it to be universal either. But I'm definitely not talking about aggressive proselytizing or salesmenship. I have little tolerance for that.

I can certainly understand that wasting Peter's time because he thought she was going to speak to something else is annoying and rude.
 
Back in Univ we had a Thurs tradition in our house.  We would play soccer in the field just around the corner for an hour or so and then the losers had to but the beer and the night would start.  This particular Thurs we had 6 guys playing and it had rained that day so field was a little muddy.  When we returned to house with beer in hand some of us took off the muddy clothes and were sitting at the table playing cards in just underwear when the doorbell rang.  The group's "devil" went to answer and we heard him say "come on in".  When the 2 young preachers rounded the corner and saw the group with 4 nearly naked sitting there jaws hit the floor.  We could watch them still running for blocks.
 
20 year olds with beer and dope.  Showers were not that imp at that moment.  First guy was cleaned up, he answered door.
 
Bullfrog said:
About as poisonous as universally not accepting others' beliefs because of your own personal superiority?
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No, indoctrination, whether aggressive or sneaky, is not acceptable.
 
Bullfrog said:
I wouldn't presume it to be universal either. But I'm definitely not talking about aggressive proselytizing or salesmenship. I have little tolerance for that.
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I disagree. Going door to door trying to convert people fits that definition for me.
 
They annoy me but it's amazing how effective a simple "no thank you and have a nice day" is with a smile. I've never had any of them push or offend me. I'll take 'em all day long over door to door sales people.
 
I hadn't thought of it that way, Nik. It's an interesting point of view. makes some sense too, because regardless of whether someone is aggressive in their demeanor or not, I do feel like my personal space has been somewhat violated when someone I don't know knocks on my door to sell something. Though how they act afterwards really affects my viewpoint.

As an architectural designer, this is why I'm a fan of porches. :) It's a buffer zone -- a transition space between outside and inside -- that's too often omitted on newer homes.
 
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