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The Official Gaming Thread

Bender said:
Anyone else playing their social life into oblivion via Fallout 4?

Good timing on this, I spent an obscene amount of time this weekend finishing the main quest. Still have a lot of side quests to get around to but I'll probably take a small break until I jump back in.

How far are you/which route are you taking?
 
Bender said:
Anyone else playing their social life into oblivion via Fallout 4?

I played it a little. I liked it but I'm sort of starting to feel an encroaching uniformity to Bethesda's games that I'm a little iffy on. Also, I'm not a huge fan of the way they streamlined the mechanics of it.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bender said:
Anyone else playing their social life into oblivion via Fallout 4?

I played it a little. I liked it but I'm sort of starting to feel an encroaching uniformity to Bethesda's games that I'm a little iffy on. Also, I'm not a huge fan of the way they streamlined the mechanics of it.

Care to elaborate?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Anyone else playing their social life into oblivion via Fallout 4?

Good timing on this, I spent an obscene amount of time this weekend finishing the main quest. Still have a lot of side quests to get around to but I'll probably take a small break until I jump back in.

How far are you/which route are you taking?

It's one of those games like GTA V where i just have this urge to give up my life for like a month to finish whatever I think is worth finishing and probably never play it again haha.

How do you mean which route? Like which faction I'm aligned with? I really like the Railroad, and I usually play the first go around as a good character... plus I feel the game disproportionately awards characters for being good. How about you?

One thing I want to add is I don't feel like this game is as dark as Fallout 3. I remember blowing up Megaton going wow... I'm actually evil! This one... meh, not so much. I hear the Brotherhood of Steel can get pretty heavy though.
 
Bender said:
How do you mean which route? Like which faction I'm aligned with? I really like the Railroad, and I usually play the first go around as a good character... plus I feel the game disproportionately awards characters for being good. How about you?

One thing I want to add is I don't feel like this game is as dark as Fallout 3. I remember blowing up Megaton going wow... I'm actually evil! This one... meh, not so much. I hear the Brotherhood of Steel can get pretty heavy though.

I started with the Minutemen just because they were the first faction to come up for me. Did all (or most) of their quests and then jumped ship to the Railroad. Pretty sure you can do all 3 of the faction's quests, it's not until you reach a certain point of the main storyline that it forces you to just choose one to align with. But I had a friend who went with the BoS and we compared stories, the Railroad was definitely the more interesting option.  I don't know how far you are, but things get a lot more fun I thought once you reach the Institute.

And yeah, all factions (even the Institute) think that what they're doing is best for the Commonwealth. The Minutemen are definitely the the most goody-two-shoes though, Brotherhood are probably on the other side of the spectrum. But you really can't play a completely evil character in this.
 
Bender said:
Care to elaborate?

Sure. I suppose it feels like a lot of their recent open world RPGs have been characterized by the same strengths and weaknesses. Tons of stuff to do...but wonky game mechanics. Beautiful open worlds and level design....but PS2 era character models. Immersive depth...super-buggy.

As for what I mean about streamlining the mechanics of it, and other people have said this, is that they made the choices you make building your character less meaningful because everything boils down to a gunfight at some point. In previous fallout games you'd have medicine and science and repair skills that could be used to solve problems and now those all, more or less, have been repurposed to making you better in combat.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Anyone else playing their social life into oblivion via Fallout 4?

Good timing on this, I spent an obscene amount of time this weekend finishing the main quest. Still have a lot of side quests to get around to but I'll probably take a small break until I jump back in.

How far are you/which route are you taking?

I just couldn't get into it as much.  I liked the early parts of quests but when every Minutemen quest became save this village from Ghouls that are on the completely opposite end of the map it became frustrating.

The end of the game (I sided with the Institute) was absurdly anticlimactic.  I did not like the watered down responses either.  Outside of annoying companions I didn't find that there was nearly as much freedom to impact choice inside individual quests.

That and I honestly had a harder time killing some of the mirelurks than I did deathclaws.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Red alert:  Rocket League now has a seasonal hockey-themed mode called Snow Day, played in an arena with a puck.  Worth a whirl.

I think a few people oh here play this, maybe there would be some interest in a TMLfans Rocket League tournament, $5 donation to the site as a buy-in, perhaps?
 
Patrick said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
Red alert:  Rocket League now has a seasonal hockey-themed mode called Snow Day, played in an arena with a puck.  Worth a whirl.

I think a few people oh here play this, maybe there would be some interest in a TMLfans Rocket League tournament, $5 donation to the site as a buy-in, perhaps?

I'd be game, though I'm not often available at particularly convenient times.
 
So I finished Fallout 4. My copy of the game came with the now-backwards compatible Fallout 3 (great feature) so I started playing that pretty much right after. And I gotta say, while I really enjoyed the new one Fallout 3 is definitely the superior game. I think the biggest difference though is that Fallout 4 just wasn't an RPG game anymore. For whatever reason, Bethesda basically made it into an open-world action adventure game. And if you judge Fallout 4 purely as that, it's a fantastic game. But yes when you hold it up as an RPG (which I can obviously understand why you would) it has a lot of shortcomings.

I played most of Fallout 3 when it originally came up, but I was surprised to see how short the game was. I've absolutely loved playing it, but I'm very close to the ending and I'm just over 18 hours of game time. I guess the 100-hour RPGs didn't start until after this. I also haven't played very many side quests yet though so obviously that number will grow a little. I've really only done them in Megaton and Rivet City. I figured more would pop up naturally as I did the main mission but it never really brought me to very many other places. I'll definitely go exploring more once I finish the main story.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
So I finished Fallout 4. My copy of the game came with the now-backwards compatible Fallout 3 (great feature) so I started playing that pretty much right after. And I gotta say, while I really enjoyed the new one Fallout 3 is definitely the superior game. I think the biggest difference though is that Fallout 4 just wasn't an RPG game anymore. For whatever reason, Bethesda basically made it into an open-world action adventure game. And if you judge Fallout 4 purely as that, it's a fantastic game. But yes when you hold it up as an RPG (which I can obviously understand why you would) it has a lot of shortcomings.

I played most of Fallout 3 when it originally came up, but I was surprised to see how short the game was. I've absolutely loved playing it, but I'm very close to the ending and I'm just over 18 hours of game time. I guess the 100-hour RPGs didn't start until after this. I also haven't played very many side quests yet though so obviously that number will grow a little. I've really only done them in Megaton and Rivet City. I figured more would pop up naturally as I did the main mission but it never really brought me to very many other places. I'll definitely go exploring more once I finish the main story.

From an RPG standpoint I'd probably agree with you. There are hardly any RPG elements in Fallout 4. You get perks, you load perks, done. I'm playing Far Cry 4 right now and the mechanics are very similar, but it already feels like the superior game if you are comparing it to Fallout 4. I mean, as much as I liked Fallout 4, it was repetitive as hell. Fallout 3 had more personality going for it and there were more explicitly evil and/or moral choices you were required to make. Every choice I made in Fallout 4 felt inconsequential, there were no hard choices.

From a graphical, production, looting, customizability aspect Fallout 4 has made some great improvements (especially looting!) and while I still love Fallout 4, it's just not as interesting as it could've been.
 
Bender said:
Fallout 3 had more personality going for it and there were more explicitly evil and/or moral choices you were required to make. Every choice I made in Fallout 4 felt inconsequential, there were no hard choices.

Yeah I played 3 as evil because I've basically never played a game like that before (sorry, Megaton). Then I started to think about how I would have played 4 as evil, and really came up blank.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Fallout 3 had more personality going for it and there were more explicitly evil and/or moral choices you were required to make. Every choice I made in Fallout 4 felt inconsequential, there were no hard choices.

Yeah I played 3 as evil because I've basically never played a game like that before (sorry, Megaton). Then I started to think about how I would have played 4 as evil, and really came up blank.

I remember blowing up Megaton thinking "What have I done?" And having an odd unsettling feeling... until I put a death collar on a slave. I was ok with it by that point haha.
 
Bender said:
I remember blowing up Megaton thinking "What have I done?" And having an odd unsettling feeling... until I put a death collar on a slave. I was ok with it by that point haha.

At one point my character went from "Very Evil" to just "Evil" and I got really bummed out. It was when I freed Fawkes. But I was only using him to get the G.E.C.K I told him to buzz off afterward! So anyway to get my karma back to where I wanted I killed a couple of BOS members in their sleep and then ate their corpses for health.

Man, what a great game.
 
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
So I finished Fallout 4. My copy of the game came with the now-backwards compatible Fallout 3 (great feature) so I started playing that pretty much right after. And I gotta say, while I really enjoyed the new one Fallout 3 is definitely the superior game. I think the biggest difference though is that Fallout 4 just wasn't an RPG game anymore. For whatever reason, Bethesda basically made it into an open-world action adventure game. And if you judge Fallout 4 purely as that, it's a fantastic game. But yes when you hold it up as an RPG (which I can obviously understand why you would) it has a lot of shortcomings.

I played most of Fallout 3 when it originally came up, but I was surprised to see how short the game was. I've absolutely loved playing it, but I'm very close to the ending and I'm just over 18 hours of game time. I guess the 100-hour RPGs didn't start until after this. I also haven't played very many side quests yet though so obviously that number will grow a little. I've really only done them in Megaton and Rivet City. I figured more would pop up naturally as I did the main mission but it never really brought me to very many other places. I'll definitely go exploring more once I finish the main story.

From an RPG standpoint I'd probably agree with you. There are hardly any RPG elements in Fallout 4. You get perks, you load perks, done. I'm playing Far Cry 4 right now and the mechanics are very similar, but it already feels like the superior game if you are comparing it to Fallout 4. I mean, as much as I liked Fallout 4, it was repetitive as hell. Fallout 3 had more personality going for it and there were more explicitly evil and/or moral choices you were required to make. Every choice I made in Fallout 4 felt inconsequential, there were no hard choices.

From a graphical, production, looting, customizability aspect Fallout 4 has made some great improvements (especially looting!) and while I still love Fallout 4, it's just not as interesting as it could've been.

Did you guys play Fallout 1 and Fallout 2?  When I originally got Fallout it quickly became one of my favourite games.  I really liked the second one as well.  The background story as to why you are in the post apocalyptic nightmare is just great.  I have a Windows XP vmware session on my desktop so that I can go back and play the two of them every couple of years or so.  I see that steam offers it now so I may give that a try. 

I got 4 for Christmas, and I have only gotten a couple of nights to play it.  I like it so far.  I like the whole scavenging for resources aspect.  I didn't get a chance to play 3, but maybe I will pick it up on Steam and give it a try.  I have a PS4, so I unfortunately can play 3 on that.
 
I just finished the order 1886 and I honestly liked it. Granted I got it for 9$ but I'm not sure why it got panned. Sure it's a little short but it's a good story and the animation and setting are too notch. For under 10$ this is a great buy.

On another note I also got mlb 15 and that has to be the most complete sports game I have ever played. Just to be fair though this is the first version of any baseball I've played since baseball stars on my nes.
 

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