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The Official Movie Thread

Wasn't sure if this fell under Movie, TV or Music thread as it's on Netflix but it's 90 minutes long soooo

The Dirt

The biopic of Motley Crue in the 1980s and 1990s. If you think of all the most hedonistic heavy metal band stories you heard from back then, they're probably in this movie. It's absolutely mad from the opening scene with a "cameo"* from Ozzy Osbourne that is particularly memorable

But they also touch on some pretty weighty subjects such as Heroin addiction.

It's done in a light hearted way, and more of a celebration of the lifestyle, and it probably won't go down too well with the Me Too movement. But I enjoyed it and as a representation of the times I suspect it's pretty accurate...



*Not the actual Ozzy, alas
 
Arn said:
Wasn't sure if this fell under Movie, TV or Music thread as it's on Netflix but it's 90 minutes long soooo

The Dirt

The biopic of Motley Crue in the 1980s and 1990s. If you think of all the most hedonistic heavy metal band stories you heard from back then, they're probably in this movie. It's absolutely mad from the opening scene with a "cameo"* from Ozzy Osbourne that is particularly memorable

But they also touch on some pretty weighty subjects such as Heroin addiction.

It's done in a light hearted way, and more of a celebration of the lifestyle, and it probably won't go down too well with the Me Too movement. But I enjoyed it and as a representation of the times I suspect it's pretty accurate...



*Not the actual Ozzy, alas
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The book was fantastic. I haven't had the kids out of the house long enough to even consider taking in the movie.

The Heroin Diaries is an even better book about Sixx's battle with addiction.
 
I saw it and to the movie's credit they don't spend much time trying to lionize the band or their music(Hair Metal isn't my thing but I'm not even sure where they rank in that genre's firmament). In fact, there's really not a lot of music in the movie at all. I thought the performances were pretty good with whatshisname from Game of Thrones being particularly good as their guitarist.

Where I think the movie was a bit of a let down was with the supposed debauchery. I'm not sure it was as ridiculous as it was presented as. Outside of the scene with Ozzy, I'm not sure that what they got up to amounted to much more than trashing hotel rooms, downing copious amounts of drugs/alcohol and having sex with groupies. While I'm sure that was loads of fun it also sort of reads as pretty standard for rock bands. It's not, for instance, Led Zeppelin and the shark.

I suppose a point could be made about them kind of glossing over the fact that their drummer has a history of smacking around the women in his life, which feels like a bigger thing than just some #MeToo inspired political correctness, but if anything my main beef with the movie is that I wasn't particularly offended by anything which sort of raises the question of what the point of the movie is.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I saw it and to the movie's credit they don't spend much time trying to lionize the band or their music(Hair Metal isn't my thing but I'm not even sure where they rank in that genre's firmament). In fact, there's really not a lot of music in the movie at all. I thought the performances were pretty good with whatshisname from Game of Thrones being particularly good as their guitarist.

Where I think the movie was a bit of a let down was with the supposed debauchery. I'm not sure it was as ridiculous as it was presented as. Outside of the scene with Ozzy, I'm not sure that what they got up to amounted to much more than trashing hotel rooms, downing copious amounts of drugs/alcohol and having sex with groupies. While I'm sure that was loads of fun it also sort of reads as pretty standard for rock bands. It's not, for instance, Led Zeppelin and the shark.

I suppose a point could be made about them kind of glossing over the fact that their drummer has a history of smacking around the women in his life, which feels like a bigger thing than just some #MeToo inspired political correctness, but if anything my main beef with the movie is that I wasn't particularly offended by anything which sort of raises the question of what the point of the movie is.
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Wait. What if your sensibilities mean you don't get offended easily? I mean I'm sure some people were offended by the movie, so wouldn't that make it's point with other viewers?
 
Gender Bender said:
Wait. What if your sensibilities mean you don't get offended easily? I mean I'm sure some people were offended by the movie, so wouldn't that make it's point with other viewers?
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Offended might be the wrong word there. Shocked, maybe? Admittedly as someone who has read about backstage culture at rock shows it would take a bit to shock me but that's when I'd go back to asking what the point of the movie was.
 
Anyone seen Joker yet?

I thought Joaquin Phoenix was sensational. Thought it would be hard to match Heath ledger's interpretation and while very different, this is very close to equal.

As for the movie I thought it was fantastic, mainly because of the point I made above, but at the same time I can see why people would have many issues with it...
 
The best quote I heard about Joker was calling it 'Baby's First Taxi Driver'.  It's a little over the top but I liked it.

The movie is good.  It's funny that a movie that is based around classism and mental illness was lumped in with movie shootings and incels though.  It was pretty much the exact opposite cause being addressed.  Phoenix is great, his dialogue is not all that good but that is a statement more on the script than the performance.  Even if you find the first half of the movie a little slow, the 3rd act is spectacular.

Also while on the topic of that movie shooting in Aurora.  The shooter was NOT dressed up as the Joker.  He had red dyed hair.  He did NOT shoot up the Dark Knight to make a statement about the movie.  He picked the movie he knew would have a full audience on an opening weekend.  It's amazing how that somehow continues to be a myth spread around.
 
Arn said:
Anyone seen Joker yet?

I thought Joaquin Phoenix was sensational. Thought it would be hard to match Heath ledger's interpretation and while very different, this is very close to equal.

As for the movie I thought it was fantastic, mainly because of the point I made above, but at the same time I can see why people would have many issues with it...
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Just saw it,  Joaquin is Oscar bound..scary stuff
 
I watched the new Soderbergh movie The Laundromat on Netflix yesterday and I'd recommend it highly. Excellent cast(Meryl Streep, Gary Oldman, Antonio Banderas) and engrossing subject matter(The Panama Papers). Very much the sort of movie that people complain doesn't get made any more.
 
Maybe some of you caught the hubbub over Martin Scorcese's thoughts about Marvel movies. Well, he wrote an op-ed in the NYT today trying to expand on his point and it's worth a read:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur

Some say that Hitchcock?s pictures had a sameness to them, and perhaps that?s true ? Hitchcock himself wondered about it. But the sameness of today?s franchise pictures is something else again. Many of the elements that define cinema as I know it are there in Marvel pictures. What?s not there is revelation, mystery or genuine emotional danger. Nothing is at risk. The pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes.

They are sequels in name but they are remakes in spirit, and everything in them is officially sanctioned because it can?t really be any other way. That?s the nature of modern film franchises: market-researched, audience-tested, vetted, modified, revetted and remodified until they?re ready for consumption.
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It's a very good piece that makes some very good points and while I don't 100% agree with it, I think that if someone like Martin Scorsese has something to say about the state of modern filmmaking he should probably be heard out.
 
I recently got a chance to see Booksmart and while I'm not the first person to say this, I definitely think it's one of the better movies of the year. It's reductive to just call it a gender swapped Superbad but that's the jist of it and it's really, really funny.
 
Nik Bethune said:
I recently got a chance to see Booksmart and while I'm not the first person to say this, I definitely think it's one of the better movies of the year. It's reductive to just call it a gender swapped Superbad but that's the jist of it and it's really, really funny.
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I enjoyed it a lot as well. A touch of Harold and Kumar to it as well.

Did you see Blockers? Criminally poor marketing, but I don't remember the last time I laughed this much.
 
herman said:
Did you see Blockers? Criminally poor marketing, but I don't remember the last time I laughed this much.
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I haven't and, like you say, I didn't think much of it based on what I saw of the trailers but I'll give it a try between your recommendation and a surprisingly good RT score.
 
Nik Bethune said:
herman said:
Did you see Blockers? Criminally poor marketing, but I don't remember the last time I laughed this much.
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I haven't and, like you say, I didn't think much of it based on what I saw of the trailers but I'll give it a try between your recommendation and a surprisingly good RT score.
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John Cena is surprisingly good.
 
L K said:
Nik Bethune said:
herman said:
Did you see Blockers? Criminally poor marketing, but I don't remember the last time I laughed this much.
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I haven't and, like you say, I didn't think much of it based on what I saw of the trailers but I'll give it a try between your recommendation and a surprisingly good RT score.
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John Cena is surprisingly good.
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It?s a good sibling movie to Booksmart even if they?re completely unassociated.

If I?m not mistaken, the Office Space TPS reports guy gets a magnificent turn in the spotlight as well.
 
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