The Official Movie Thread
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Phileas Fogg
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Palm Springs was fun. Ive always liked samberg, even though his range is pretty much limited to between goofball funny to very goofball funny.
Man, that justice league thing was just a weird mix of terrible. You could almost pick scene by scene where they were trying to rip off the Marvel movies, and failing miserably. They've got a loveable naive comedic character is spiderman? Then we'll do that to the flash! They've got a bunch of "collect the stones" treasure hunts? Then we'll do boxes! Thanos equivalent with drone minions? check! etc etc etc.
The absolute worst was their insistence on playing each character's signature theme music or something like it whenever they ramped up the CGI, it was just beyond cheese.
Anyway, some things are only worth seeing if you want to see stuff get blown up.
Man, that justice league thing was just a weird mix of terrible. You could almost pick scene by scene where they were trying to rip off the Marvel movies, and failing miserably. They've got a loveable naive comedic character is spiderman? Then we'll do that to the flash! They've got a bunch of "collect the stones" treasure hunts? Then we'll do boxes! Thanos equivalent with drone minions? check! etc etc etc.
The absolute worst was their insistence on playing each character's signature theme music or something like it whenever they ramped up the CGI, it was just beyond cheese.
Anyway, some things are only worth seeing if you want to see stuff get blown up.
Frycer14 said:
I understand the complaints here, and I'm not really defending the JL league movie (Whedon's version was crap, the Snyder cut was fine), but this isn't so much as ripping off Marvel as just following the same formula as like half the stories that have ever been told in any format. Marvel didn't invent having a sarcastic comedic sidekicks, having to collect things, and having a dark menacing baddie. You can say the same thing about like Oceans 11. So I'm just saying they can both be accused of ripping off the exact same tropes.
L K said:
Oh yeah, I'd agree with that. The whole scene sucked. I get why they wanted to squeeze one Batman/Joker interaction into this series of movies since this was the last chance to do so, but yeah the payoff wasn't worth it at all.
Kin
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I just think it was a very bad idea that if you knew Marvel was doing Thanos to try and do Darkseid. The comparisons were inevitable and almost certainly not likely to be in DC's favour.
But even then, nobody liked the other Snyder movies. I don't understand why people thought they'd be good at 4 hours.
But even then, nobody liked the other Snyder movies. I don't understand why people thought they'd be good at 4 hours.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
That's true but to some extent it's like when Seth Macfarlane says that both he and the Simpsons ripped off The Flintstones. Creating an animated comedy about an overweight dad, put upon mom and their wacky kids when the Simpsons was the biggest thing in the world was always going to invite that comparison.
DC had a good thing going for it with a bunch of good will from the Nolan Batman movies even though the third one wasn't great. They just needed to find their niche which probably started with a bright, optimistic, well put together Superman movie that was a lot of fun and Snyder was almost certainly the worst possible choice for that.
I?m watching justice league right now as I type this, I?m an hour and 29 mins in and my god this is a slogfest.
To be honest I barely remember the theatrical release so I?m not sure what?s new and what?s original, but this just feels, so far, like they tried to cram 5 movies into 1.
To be honest I barely remember the theatrical release so I?m not sure what?s new and what?s original, but this just feels, so far, like they tried to cram 5 movies into 1.
OldTimeHockey
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My wife, daughter and I watched Indian Horse last night. For anyone that has not watched it yet, do yourself a favour and find it. It's a dark film that makes you embarrassed/angry to be a catholic Canadian. I'm so angry that for my 20 years in education, I never heard a thing about residential schools.
It created a 30 minute conversation afterwards about the struggles of indigenous peoples and what we can do to understand and make a difference.
It created a 30 minute conversation afterwards about the struggles of indigenous peoples and what we can do to understand and make a difference.
herman
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Kudos for confronting this dark very near history with a desire to get educated and enact positive change.
If you don't get to see the film, here is at least a very brief and sanitized overview of what Residential Schools were.
Some resources by age group: https://nctr.ca/education/
If you don't get to see the film, here is at least a very brief and sanitized overview of what Residential Schools were.
Some resources by age group: https://nctr.ca/education/
Not sure if this will be seen as a hot take or anything, and I?m not trying to be snobbish or controversial.
So I watched Shang Chi and the legend of the 10 rings and I was pretty underwhelmed. I found the movie a little groan inducing. I guess if you like action and martial arts it?s cool, but plot wise? meh.
So I watched Shang Chi and the legend of the 10 rings and I was pretty underwhelmed. I found the movie a little groan inducing. I guess if you like action and martial arts it?s cool, but plot wise? meh.
Kin
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Joe S. said:
Yeah, I didn't think it was bad or anything but it felt like they tried to cram an action comedy/a somewhat serious martial arts movie/a super hero movie all into one movie. Like, they set up the whole movie to be an intense/emotional/epic martial arts fight between him and his father and that lasts for about 2 minutes before it turns into a CGI fight between two dragons?
I get the sense Marvel is a little lost right now. It feels like everyone's waiting for them to move onto Fantastic Four and X-Men while we're getting movies about weird 70's characters people don't really remember or have affection for.
bustaheims
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While, by no means was Shang-Chi a great movie, I thought it was a fun popcorn flick, and that's all I ever expect from superhero movies.
L K
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I'm a bit of a sucker for Wuxia films so I really enjoyed Shang Chi but I agree that Marvel is a bit lost right now. The pandemic didn't help as apparently they are doing a lot of reshoots on a number of movies because the pandemic changed how some of their Disney + series played out and that has affected their new timeline stuff.
It seems kind of odd to be concerned about realism when talking about superhero movies but this next big chunk of films is going to have a lot of less conventional movies that I think the average movie-goer isn't going to care about nearly as much and at least right now they don't have a great cast of guys that have the natural star power to drive a 20 film arc of movies.
It seems kind of odd to be concerned about realism when talking about superhero movies but this next big chunk of films is going to have a lot of less conventional movies that I think the average movie-goer isn't going to care about nearly as much and at least right now they don't have a great cast of guys that have the natural star power to drive a 20 film arc of movies.
bustaheims
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L K said:
I'm not sure how much more true that is of their current group than it was of the initial group of Avengers. Other than RDJ (who was near the beginning of reclaiming his star power) and ScarJo (and Samuel L, of course, but he's been - and continues to be - more of a peripheral figure in the MCU), none of the original cast were particularly big stars at the time. Chris Evans was known, sure, but he didn't have star power (at least, not leading man in a big budget movie type star power). Now, they have actors like Paul Rudd and Brie Larson, have made Chris Hemsworth and Tom Hiddleston into huge stars, have up-and-comers like Elizabeth Olson and Tom Holland, are introducing some big names and other recognizable faces in the Eternals, and so on. I'd say there's more star power in the MCU than there were going into the first Avengers movie. It's more that the whole endeavour doesn't seem so epic as it did 10-15 years ago. We've come to expect big things from Marvel, so we judge them on a different scale.
Kin
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bustaheims said:
But I think the point is more even if Chris Evans wasn't a big deal movie star at the time he was hired he pretty quickly established that he was that sort of guy and likewise the Iron Man movies worked in large part because of what Downey quickly became and the movies themselves were big time showcases for them. Eternals has some people who are famous names but it sure doesn't sound like the movie is a particularly good showcase for any of them.
Which was part of what I found confusing about Shang Chi. Like, I thought Simu Liu was very, very good in it and had tons of charisma which is why I found it a little confusing near the end there where we got so much of whether or not Awkwafina would learn to be good at archery.