This sucks - Burke is fiddling while Rome burns

[sickbeast]

The Jays are losing.

The Leafs have been bad and Burke is doing nothing about it.  No trades, no signings.  He's turning out to be a really bad GM.  He's not paid to do nothing.  I realize he's got a lot he's dealing with in his personal life but really perhaps he should be let go to give him the time he needs to grieve the loss of his son.  Give him a nice package and find someone new.  I was willing to give Burke another season but he's done *nothing* so I'm done with him now.  He needs to go ASAP.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Could have sworn we traded for a 2nd overall pick recently....

I also like the idea that because he's not making a ton of moves that he's doing nothing.  You realize making trades and signings all the time isn't the only job of a GM, right?

But, anyways, he's made tons of moves since he's been here.  No point making moves just for the sake of making them - or to look busy.

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

Could have sworn we traded for a 2nd overall pick recently....

I also like the idea that because he's not making a ton of moves that he's doing nothing.  You realize making trades and signings all the time isn't the only job of a GM, right?

But, anyways, he's made tons of moves since he's been here.  No point making moves just for the sake of making them - or to look busy.

no no..much better to trade for the sake of trading then you know...actually trying to improve the team

 

[KW Sluggo]

Could have sworn we traded for a 2nd overall pick recently....

I also like the idea that because he's not making a ton of moves that he's doing nothing.  You realize making trades and signings all the time isn't the only job of a GM, right?

But, anyways, he's made tons of moves since he's been here.  No point making moves just for the sake of making them - or to look busy.

We did?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Could have sworn we traded for a 2nd overall pick recently....

I also like the idea that because he's not making a ton of moves that he's doing nothing.  You realize making trades and signings all the time isn't the only job of a GM, right?

But, anyways, he's made tons of moves since he's been here.  No point making moves just for the sake of making them - or to look busy.

We did?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_van_Riemsdyk

 

[Capital Leaf]

BB pretty much painted himself into the corner when he said things like he would never sign anyone to a long term deal....here's the deal, if that's his philosophy he will never sign a young UFA, ever!

Its pretty obvious that term is exactly what guys like Kovalchuk, Richards, Parise, Suter ect... want.... and BB won't give it so the Leafs are screwed when it comes to signing a big time UFA.

The only solution is that BB changes his stance on long term contracts otherwise yes they should consider someone taking over as GM.
I mean I don't think the Leafs even tried to sign a big name this year.... anyone know if they offered Parise or Suter anything?
The only big time player I think they went for during Burke's tenure as GM was Brad Richards and I bet that offer wasn't even close to the other teams.

 

[drummond]

The Jays are losing.

The Leafs have been bad and Burke is doing nothing about it.  No trades, no signings.  He's turning out to be a really bad GM.  He's not paid to do nothing.  I realize he's got a lot he's dealing with in his personal life but really perhaps he should be let go to give him the time he needs to grieve the loss of his son.  Give him a nice package and find someone new.  I was willing to give Burke another season but he's done *nothing* so I'm done with him now.  He needs to go ASAP.

Too much sunshine?

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

BB pretty much painted himself into the corner when he said things like he would never sign anyone to a long term deal....here's the deal, if that's his philosophy he will never sign a young UFA, ever!

Its pretty obvious that term is exactly what guys like Kovalchuk, Richards, Parise, Suter ect... want.... and BB won't give it so the Leafs are screwed when it comes to signing a big time UFA.

The only solution is that BB changes his stance on long term contracts otherwise yes they should consider someone taking over as GM.
I mean I don't think the Leafs even tried to sign a big name this year.... anyone know if they offered Parise or Suter anything?
The only big time player I think they went for during Burke's tenure as GM was Brad Richards and I bet that offer wasn't even close to the other teams.

If the new CBA puts a term limit on contracts and assures no front loading as has been suggested, then Burke will be fine in this regard.

We would really be sitting pretty if somehow they find a way to punish teams with these circumventing contracts.

 

[Redleaf]

BB pretty much painted himself into the corner when he said things like he would never sign anyone to a long term deal....here's the deal, if that's his philosophy he will never sign a young UFA, ever!

Its pretty obvious that term is exactly what guys like Kovalchuk, Richards, Parise, Suter ect... want.... and BB won't give it so the Leafs are screwed when it comes to signing a big time UFA.

The only solution is that BB changes his stance on long term contracts otherwise yes they should consider someone taking over as GM.
I mean I don't think the Leafs even tried to sign a big name this year.... anyone know if they offered Parise or Suter anything?
The only big time player I think they went for during Burke's tenure as GM was Brad Richards and I bet that offer wasn't even close to the other teams.

If the new CBA puts a term limit on contracts and assures no front loading as has been suggested, then Burke will be fine in this regard.

We would really be sitting pretty if somehow they find a way to punish teams with these circumventing contracts.

They all lose a first rounder to the teams who didn't cheat the contract? 

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

BB pretty much painted himself into the corner when he said things like he would never sign anyone to a long term deal....here's the deal, if that's his philosophy he will never sign a young UFA, ever!

Its pretty obvious that term is exactly what guys like Kovalchuk, Richards, Parise, Suter ect... want.... and BB won't give it so the Leafs are screwed when it comes to signing a big time UFA.

The only solution is that BB changes his stance on long term contracts otherwise yes they should consider someone taking over as GM.
I mean I don't think the Leafs even tried to sign a big name this year.... anyone know if they offered Parise or Suter anything?
The only big time player I think they went for during Burke's tenure as GM was Brad Richards and I bet that offer wasn't even close to the other teams.

If the new CBA puts a term limit on contracts and assures no front loading as has been suggested, then Burke will be fine in this regard.

We would really be sitting pretty if somehow they find a way to punish teams with these circumventing contracts.

I'm not sure a term limit is necessary (maybe moreso an age limit). Treat all contracts longer than a specified amount of time (6 years?) as they did the 35+ contracts.

I mean to say, make teams honour the contract no matter what happens (injury/retirement etc.). If teams want to gamble on a player then they can but they'll get no relief from the league. I think there also needs to be a rule about how much time you can be on LTIR.

Then they should either put a Cap on the age a player will be at the end of the contract (40?) or some kind of over- age tax added (not sure how this would work) to the years that go beyond 40.

I still think Burke missed the boat on these type of contracts. At the end of the day they offer great value and are pretty low risk. Who he thinks he's protecting is beyond me. His job is to create a winning hockey club, not protect the league and the sanctity of the salary cap. Too bad.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I'm not really understanding the point of this thread.

 

[hap_leaf]

You could have harnessed that pain and anger and made an intelligent post on a valid concern, but instead you griped and lost your audience.

 

[bustaheims]

I'm not really understanding the point of this thread.

Impatience.

 

[Corn Flake]

 

[Kin]

I'm not really understanding the point of this thread.

Succinctness.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I'm not really understanding the point of this thread.

Impatience.

Could be incredibly hard for him in the next while.... I'll give him a preview of the Leafs, circa 2017...

Kadri/ van Riemsdyk/ Kessel
Ashton/Colborne/ Frattin
Ross/ Ott/ Biggs
D?Amigo/ Helm / Komarov
Broll

Reilly/ Phaneuf
Gardiner/ Franson
Blacker/ Holzer
Finn/ Percy

Reimer
Scrivens

Oh yeah, we signed Ott as a free agent and traded for Darren Helm.

 

[sickbeast]

I'm not really understanding the point of this thread.

Impatience.

Burke is fiddling while Rome burns.  He needs to go.

 

[bustaheims]

Burke is fiddling while Rome burns.  He needs to go.

Yup. Impatience. Over the past, what, 3 weeks, there have been all of 2 significant moves around the league - and one of those involved a player staying where he was for big money. Burke's not a magician. He can't create moves out of nowhere. If other teams or players aren't willing to play ball, then there's nothing he can do. The uncertainty around the CBA has dragged movement around the league to a crawl.

Also, I mean, Rome's not burning. With the additions of JvR and McClement with the only real subtraction being Schenn, the Leafs are probably a better team than they were when the season ended.

 

[Bender]

Burke is fiddling while Rome burns.  He needs to go.

Yup. Impatience. Over the past, what, 3 weeks, there have been all of 2 significant moves around the league - and one of those involved a player staying where he was for big money. Burke's not a magician. He can't create moves out of nowhere. If other teams or players aren't willing to play ball, then there's nothing he can do. The uncertainty around the CBA has dragged movement around the league to a crawl.

Also, I mean, Rome's not burning. With the additions of JvR and McClement with the only real subtraction being Schenn, the Leafs are probably a better team than they were when the season ended.

Not a ton better to be honest, but still better. We have to keep in mind that our prospects are developing pretty decently. What happened to all the excitement in getting to the cup final with one of the youngest teams in the AHL? Most players on the team are legitimate prospects even if they aren't bluechippers. And who knows, maybe Rielly pans out and makes the team in 13/14.

 

[Kin]

Yup. Impatience. Over the past, what, 3 weeks, there have been all of 2 significant moves around the league - and one of those involved a player staying where he was for big money. Burke's not a magician. He can't create moves out of nowhere. If other teams or players aren't willing to play ball, then there's nothing he can do. The uncertainty around the CBA has dragged movement around the league to a crawl.

I don't mean to go out on a crazy limb here but I'm going to guess that the issue isn't confined to the last three weeks.