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Where is Kadri and what's going on with his development?

lc9 said:
Erndog said:
I love it.  Guys named AHL player of the month a few days ago and "I haven't heard much about him lately" comes up.  Too funny.

I don't think its that egregious.  I had no idea Kadri was even playing.  Kadri isn't brought up that often. 

I live in the states though, they don't talk about Kadri on ESPN. 

So, thanks for the update.

If someone was that curious they could just type 'Kadri' into a google news search and quell that nasty 'not going to pan out' feeling, one way or the other.

 
It has nothing to do with your location, you can follow anything Leafs related from anywhere in the world and you have been able to do so for over ten years now, I'm proof of this.

This guy was lazy, that's why he has been made fun of.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
It has nothing to do with your location, you can follow anything Leafs related from anywhere in the world and you have been able to do so for over ten years now, I'm proof of this.

This guy was lazy, that's why he has been made fun of.

I totally agree.  I live in California and know more about the Leafs than probably most of my relatives in Ontario.  My typical day includes reading the Star, the Sun, TSN, Sportsnet.ca, and this forum.  No way I can miss a beat reading all of that.  And that also includes reading Simmons and Cox's stupid rants all the time.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
It has nothing to do with your location, you can follow anything Leafs related from anywhere in the world and you have been able to do so for over ten years now, I'm proof of this.

This guy was lazy, that's why he has been made fun of.

Especially since, all he had to do to find answer to his questions was to read some of the other threads on this very site. He made it 99% of the way there, and, then gave up.
 
Busta Reims said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
It has nothing to do with your location, you can follow anything Leafs related from anywhere in the world and you have been able to do so for over ten years now, I'm proof of this.

This guy was lazy, that's why he has been made fun of.

Especially since, all he had to do to find answer to his questions was to read some of the other threads on this very site. He made it 99% of the way there, and, then gave up.

I moved from Toronto to Seattle in 1995 and have missed only a handful of games since the move.  Streams at work, NHL center ice at home, post-game show on the drive home on Sirius/XM.  Countless blogs, new outlets, etc., oh yeah... TML Fans.

Did I mention my wife loves me??  ;)
 
According to Marlies coach Dallas Eakins, on Kadri's development...

He has high-end NHL skill, for sure. His hands and his eyes -? the way he sees the ice -? are right up there with the best. You can't teach that stuff. This isn't NHL skill; it's the high-end of the NHL skill. He's 21, but he's in an 18-year-old's body and he needs to get stronger and faster."
 
Thing that worries me with Kadri is that he is a smaller forward and those supposed to develop quicker than bigger guy. That being said I don't think he is done yet.
 
He is starting to remind of me of what Brad Boyes went through.. highly touted draft pick with loads of skill who had trouble paying attention to the smaller things and did take longer to develop physically.  All the coverage, the lack of progress, the concern/anger from fans over why he isn't being called up and given a spot.... all the same things.

At some point the problem becomes protecting him from waivers. Pretty sure he can't stay in the AHL another 2 years. I'm not even sure if he can stay there next year without being waiver eligible.  Its still surprising that after 3 years he still isn't strong enough to make it work.  Might be simply a matter of maturing later, which does happen.  Too bad waivers won't wait.
 
Corn Flake said:
He is starting to remind of me of what Brad Boyes went through.. highly touted draft pick with loads of skill who had trouble paying attention to the smaller things and did take longer to develop physically.  All the coverage, the lack of progress, the concern/anger from fans over why he isn't being called up and given a spot.... all the same things.

At some point the problem becomes protecting him from waivers. Pretty sure he can't stay in the AHL another 2 years. I'm not even sure if he can stay there next year without being waiver eligible.  Its still surprising that after 3 years he still isn't strong enough to make it work.  Might be simply a matter of maturing later, which does happen.  Too bad waivers won't wait.

He is NHL ready in my opinion and there is no doubt in my mind that if he is traded he will be a regular on that team.
 
Corn Flake said:
He is starting to remind of me of what Brad Boyes went through.. highly touted draft pick with loads of skill who had trouble paying attention to the smaller things and did take longer to develop physically.  All the coverage, the lack of progress, the concern/anger from fans over why he isn't being called up and given a spot.... all the same things.

At some point the problem becomes protecting him from waivers. Pretty sure he can't stay in the AHL another 2 years. I'm not even sure if he can stay there next year without being waiver eligible.  Its still surprising that after 3 years he still isn't strong enough to make it work.  Might be simply a matter of maturing later, which does happen.  Too bad waivers won't wait.

Who would have thought that when we drafted him in 2009, we would be entering the 2012-13 season and still have no idea if Kadri can produce at the NHL level. 

I'm rooting for the kid.  I think he certainly has a ton of skill, you can see it.  Great hands, good vision, very good passer... a nose for the net.  He's very skilled... but you can see he's soft.  He's "light" on the puck and he gets tossed around easily (although, he's also capable of throwing his own body checks).

The problem is also if he gains too much weight/strength his natural skill may be hindered a bit.  Remember the first offseason when all he tried to do was gain weight?  He went into the next season much slower, and a step behind.  It's definitely a fine line.

I hope his offseason training program really helps him earna  full time spot with the team.  I think he's very close to ready.
 
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
Corn Flake said:
He is starting to remind of me of what Brad Boyes went through.. highly touted draft pick with loads of skill who had trouble paying attention to the smaller things and did take longer to develop physically.  All the coverage, the lack of progress, the concern/anger from fans over why he isn't being called up and given a spot.... all the same things.

At some point the problem becomes protecting him from waivers. Pretty sure he can't stay in the AHL another 2 years. I'm not even sure if he can stay there next year without being waiver eligible.  Its still surprising that after 3 years he still isn't strong enough to make it work.  Might be simply a matter of maturing later, which does happen.  Too bad waivers won't wait.

He is NHL ready in my opinion and there is no doubt in my mind that if he is traded he will be a regular on that team.

Okay, but how do you know that and what has you so convinced?

I'm inclined to believe Eakins and the rest of the Leafs brass who say he has to get stronger and take care (at least minimally) his defensive duties on every shift.  If you think they are wrong, fine, but that means they either have no idea how to judge a player or they are intentionally holding him back.  Both of those reasons are pretty far fetched. 

If you watch Kadri (I do, a fair bit) the things they are saying are quite noticeable. 
 
I say bring him up next season and just let him play.  He'll have had enough time in the AHL, and an AHL playoff run hopefully, under his belt.  I think just let him stay and adjust up here, and if he needs to work on his defence still, well I'm sure Carlyle can help that.
 
Potvin29 said:
I say bring him up next season and just let him play.  He'll have had enough time in the AHL, and an AHL playoff run hopefully, under his belt.  I think just let him stay and adjust up here, and if he needs to work on his defence still, well I'm sure Carlyle can help that.

I agree and it's part of the reason I'd have jumped all over dealing both Mac and Kulemin for 1sts.
 
Erndog said:
Who would have thought that when we drafted him in 2009, we would be entering the 2012-13 season and still have no idea if Kadri can produce at the NHL level. 

I'm rooting for the kid.  I think he certainly has a ton of skill, you can see it.  Great hands, good vision, very good passer... a nose for the net.  He's very skilled... but you can see he's soft.  He's "light" on the puck and he gets tossed around easily (although, he's also capable of throwing his own body checks).

The problem is also if he gains too much weight/strength his natural skill may be hindered a bit.  Remember the first offseason when all he tried to do was gain weight?  He went into the next season much slower, and a step behind.  It's definitely a fine line.

I hope his offseason training program really helps him earna  full time spot with the team.  I think he's very close to ready.

What always confuses me is why players either don't follow the off-season conditioning plans that teams tell them to or they don't hire the best trainers they can find to whip them into shape. You would think after seeing what Gary Roberts has done for a lot of guys that every player in Kadri's state would be camping out on his front lawn to get into his program.  I don't think the guy needs to put on 20 lbs.. he probably needs to improve things like his core, etc... not where you bulk up but where you develop that inner strength and power. 

I think he CAN produce at the NHL level, but will he is the question... at least will he as a Leaf or anywhere else in the next 2-3 years. Just to add on the Boyes comparison... although it was 5 years of development for him, he did put in 3 full AHL seasons before he burst on the scene with Boston.  While it felt like about 8 years it wasn't all that bad in the end.  Just took a lot of patience and in his case, 3 teams to finally make it.

 
Corn Flake said:
At some point the problem becomes protecting him from waivers. Pretty sure he can't stay in the AHL another 2 years. I'm not even sure if he can stay there next year without being waiver eligible.  Its still surprising that after 3 years he still isn't strong enough to make it work.  Might be simply a matter of maturing later, which does happen.  Too bad waivers won't wait.

According to the capgeek waiver calculator, he's got 31 NHL games or some NHL year(s) left. It worked differently than I expected so I'm not absolutely sure it is correct.
 

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