Rebel_1812 said:
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
Rebel_1812 said:
If steen was that good why was he traded for nothing? Its because he is a soft player who never put up more then 20 goals or more then 45 points a season while with Toronto. Yes he has played better with St Louis, however with us despite being given every opportunity to succeed he was a 2nd - 3rd liner at best.
Sounds like you are talking about Bozak.
I agree bozak is in the same boat with stajan and steen. The difference is that people critize bozak whereas stajan and steen were always called good two way players. Yet despite having so many defensive players our goals against was high.
When I last checked, it is a team sport. A guy on the ice for 15-16 minutes a game can't be responsible for what went on during the other 45 minutes he wasn't on the ice nor the play of those he was on the ice with like the goaltender for example.
Stajan (28) and Steen (28) are only 2 years older than Bozak (26). I'd say their defensive aptitude and ability was and is way ahead of Bozak. Bozak was a -29 last year with half a season of decent goaltending (unlike what Stajan and Steen got in Toronto) and showed little defensive knowledge, ability or conscience. Stajan had more as an 18 year old rookie. Bozak made a credit and somewhat successful effort to improve that part of his game this year but he had no place to go but up. Given the choice in a defensive situation, I'd still take Stajan right now. Steen should be beyond debate or require zero thought - unlike Bozak, he's a complete player.
The Stempniak deal for Steen & Colaiacovo (currently top 4 on 1st place St. Louis with the lowest GAA in the league handily) would probably handily crack my top 20 list for the dumbest moves by a Leafs GM.