1 NY Rangers vs 8 Ottawa Senators

[Kin]

He still hit Tucker from behind. He can take his clown shoes and go home.

 

[Zee]

He still hit Tucker from behind. He can take his clown shoes and go home.

I was at that game, hits Tucker from behind with no call and scores the OT winner. 

 

[bustaheims]

Same here, the way I put it to my cousin the other night was that I hate the sens because I'm supposed to but I hate the Canucks because I hate the Canucks.

I guess I'm sort of the same way. I don't like the Sens in the same way I don't like the Habs - because, even though it's been a while since they've played meaningful games against each other, there's still a very real, legitimate rivalry there.

I hate the Canucks in the same way I hate the Flyers. The organization, the fan base and the way the team plays on the ice (regardless of how 'successful' it has been) all big me for one reason or another. Though, at least with the Flyers, there is an on-ice rivalry as well. I might not hate them as much is I was, say, a Canes fan or a Stars fan. The Canucks, however . . .

 

[Madferret]

He still hit Tucker from behind. He can take his clown shoes and go home.

I was at that game, hits Tucker from behind with no call and scores the OT winner.

Are you sure you were there because that didn't happen in OT? What kind of turbo Leaf fan doesn't know that?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

This was posted prior to game 7, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless, since I'm slowly understanding the more advanced hockey stats:

If you need a reason as to why the Ottawa Senators haven't wrapped this series up just yet, look no further than the struggles of L1/P1 v. the New York Rangers.

The Jason Spezza line - joined by Milan Michalek and Player X, who changes about every other shift - has really struggled against elite competition on the New York end. While I don't think it's fair to blame the big guns of Ottawa for a potential series loss, I do think it's fair to note the significant advantage New York's currently holding through the likes of Ryan McDonagh, Dan Girardi, and a bevvy of forwards who are incredibly capable of two-way hockey.

As mentioned on HockeyBuzz earlier in the series, the Jason Spezza line is getting an absurd heap of the vaunted McDonagh/Girardi pairing, and they're pretty much getting served. Not only is Spezza drawing against the above-mentioned two on three of every four even-strength shifts, but his line is also drawing tough forward assignments. All of Brad Richards, Derek Stepan, Marian Gaborik, and Ruslan Fedotenko are squaring off vs. the Spezza line on about one of every three shifts, with Ryan Callahan(40%) leading the way.

Making matters a bit more troubling, Erik Karlsson and Filip Kuba are often anchoring the blue line when Jason Spezza's L1 is on the ice, and they still can't break through the New York combination of systemic play, hard-work, and natural talent.

Consider this statistic: In this first-round series, Erik Karlsson and Jason Spezza are running the two worst zone differentials on the entire team [Offensive Zone Finish - Offensive Zone Start]. Jason Spezza and Erik Karlsson are starting 75% and 74% of their shifts in the offensive zone, respectively, yet end in the offensive zone just 62% and 56%, again respectively.

Now, you can justify that drop-off in a number of ways, but considering how often the McDonagh-Girardi pairing is drawing against them, it's pretty fair to say that Ottawa's best are continually being driven back. McDonagh(29% OZs) and Girardi(25% OZs)
log a ton of high-leverage shifts in the defensive zone, yet force the play up the ice time and time again. Both end their respective shifts about 46% of the time in the offensive zone - again, pretty substantial.

The Blueshirts dynamic blue line, combined with an assortment of two-way forwards, are taking care of business against Ottawa's elite. If the Senators are serious about taking game seven, they're going to need to get some production from their top-line, as well as continue to beat New York up through their bottom-six.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travis-Yost/Tuesday-Take-MacLean-Makes-a-Statement-L1-Domination-Conspiracy-Guy/134/44064

 

[proteus2000]

He still hit Tucker from behind. He can take his clown shoes and go home.

I was at that game, hits Tucker from behind with no call and scores the OT winner.

Are you sure you were there because that didn't happen in OT? What kind of turbo Leaf fan doesn't know that?

Haha well, it felt like ot at that point in the game. Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

The Sens played tremendous hockey against a tough opponent, obviously the fanbase has a lot to be excited about going into next yr. I would never want them to win the cup lest their fans never let Leaf nation live it down, but hockey would've been more exciting and interesting with them in the 2nd round.

 

[Jalili]

I'm glad the series ended this way just so I can stop hearing from friends and such how Chris Neil is such a good all around player and a real hockey player.

 

[Kin]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

 

[LittleHockeyFan]

I'm glad the series ended this way just so I can stop hearing from friends and such how Chris Neil is such a good all around player and a real hockey player.

hahhahhahhahhahahhahhahahhahahahhahahahah

your friends are too funny

 

[Zee]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

I also don't remember Tucker ever purposely taking a slapshot right at an opposing player because he was upset. Alfredsson might be loved in Ottawa, but he's still a clown pure and simple. The hissy fit he through in game 6 was a nice way to remember him by.

 

[proteus2000]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

I also don't remember Tucker ever purposely taking a slapshot right at an opposing player because he was upset. Alfredsson might be loved in Ottawa, but he's still a clown pure and simple. The hissy fit he through in game 6 was a nice way to remember him by.

I guess Leafs fans who aren't complete homers would say something like that- how could you watch the Leafs during the early 2000s with players such as Tucker, Corson, Roberts, Domi, King, Green, Manson, etc, and be upset over one of our guys getting run at? We had to have one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Ott was pounded physically every year by our guys in the playoffs, Alfredsson made a borderline hit but at least he was trying to answer. It's great we won all those wars and Ott is the last team that I would want to hoist the cup, but I don't hold a grudge anymore.

Want to see a dirty hit in the playoffs? This is just greasy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbN72u4hxs

 

[Andy007]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

I also don't remember Tucker ever purposely taking a slapshot right at an opposing player because he was upset. Alfredsson might be loved in Ottawa, but he's still a clown pure and simple. The hissy fit he through in game 6 was a nice way to remember him by.

I guess Leafs fans who aren't complete homers would say something like that- how could you watch the Leafs during the early 2000s with players such as Tucker, Corson, Roberts, Domi, King, Green, Manson, etc, and be upset over one of our guys getting run at? We had to have one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Ott was pounded physically every year by our guys in the playoffs, Alfredsson made a borderline hit but at least he was trying to answer. It's great we won all those wars and Ott is the last team that I would want to hoist the cup, but I don't hold a grudge anymore.

Want to see a dirty hit in the playoffs? This is just greasy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbN72u4hxs

So people shouldn't dislike Aflredsson because Domi threw a dirty elbow?

 

[Tigger]

Prot, time to find that beam of light...

Seriously though, nothing says sportsmanship like breaking your sticks and abusing water bottles, let's go Masterton!!

 

[Kin]

I guess Leafs fans who aren't complete homers would say something like that- how could you watch the Leafs during the early 2000s with players such as Tucker, Corson, Roberts, Domi, King, Green, Manson, etc, and be upset over one of our guys getting run at? We had to have one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Ott was pounded physically every year by our guys in the playoffs, Alfredsson made a borderline hit but at least he was trying to answer.

You "answer" a dirty hit by dropping gloves and throwing fists. You don't "answer" a dirty hit by hitting a guy from behind into the boards(or calling that sort of a hit "borderline"). That was the act of a dirty player making a dirty play and nothing mitigates that. Tucker wasn't fresh off an elbow to Alfredsson.

And, just for the record, most of the guys you list on the Leafs there were physical. Not dirty. Physical. The line that they were all super dirty and constantly taking cheap shots at the poor wittle Sens might as well come straight from Eugene Melnyk.

Leafs fan indeed.

 

[Zee]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

I also don't remember Tucker ever purposely taking a slapshot right at an opposing player because he was upset. Alfredsson might be loved in Ottawa, but he's still a clown pure and simple. The hissy fit he through in game 6 was a nice way to remember him by.

I guess Leafs fans who aren't complete homers would say something like that- how could you watch the Leafs during the early 2000s with players such as Tucker, Corson, Roberts, Domi, King, Green, Manson, etc, and be upset over one of our guys getting run at? We had to have one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Ott was pounded physically every year by our guys in the playoffs, Alfredsson made a borderline hit but at least he was trying to answer. It's great we won all those wars and Ott is the last team that I would want to hoist the cup, but I don't hold a grudge anymore.

Want to see a dirty hit in the playoffs? This is just greasy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbN72u4hxs

Homer Leafs fan has nothing to do with it.  My gut tells me that even the Sens fans on here probably secretly agree with me, I wouldn't know though since I have them on ignore and don't actually see any of their posts lol.

 

[Madferret]

Tucker surely has a higher number of dirty/borderline hits, so I don't really hold it against Alfie for making that play.

Speechless. I'm literally speechless. Well, not literally as I'm saying this but figuratively. I cannot believe a Leafs fan would say something like that.

I also don't remember Tucker ever purposely taking a slapshot right at an opposing player because he was upset. Alfredsson might be loved in Ottawa, but he's still a clown pure and simple. The hissy fit he through in game 6 was a nice way to remember him by.

I guess Leafs fans who aren't complete homers would say something like that- how could you watch the Leafs during the early 2000s with players such as Tucker, Corson,      Roberts, Domi, King, Green, Manson, etc, and be upset over one of our guys getting run at? We had to have one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Ott was pounded physically every year by our guys in the playoffs, Alfredsson made a borderline hit but at least he was trying to answer. It's great we won all those wars and Ott is the last team that I would want to hoist the cup, but I don't hold a grudge anymore.

Want to see a dirty hit in the playoffs? This is just greasy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPbN72u4hxs

Homer Leafs fan has nothing to do with it.  My gut tells me that even the Sens fans on here probably secretly agree with me, I wouldn't know though since I have them on ignore and don't actually see any of their posts lol.

Are you for real?

 

[Bates]

He can't answer what he can't see!!

 

[Madferret]

He can't answer what he can't see!!

Holy Douchebag

 

[Bates]

For me?  I only meant that he said he blocked all Sens fans so I was making a joke that he will not see your question.  I didn't mean to get you mad as I am not part of tghis silly debate, I actually don't hate the Sens and sorta like Alfie.

 

[Madferret]

For me?  I only meant that he said he blocked all Sens fans so I was making a joke that he will not see your question.  I didn't mean to get you mad as I am not part of tghis silly debate, I actually don't hate the Sens and sorta like Alfie.

Not you Bates - unless you talk to people with your eyes closed also