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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

Pretty amazing career came to an end today. Matt Stairs retired with 265 homeruns, 899 RsBI and 294 doubles. He did this for a record 13 teams and despite not getting a real shot in the majors until he was 27, not being a regular until he was 29.

He was short, he was fat and he was slow but he would get on base and hit for power(a career 117 OPS+). If Moneyball had been written ten years earlier Stairs may have ended up with 400+ homeruns. As is, he retires with a World Series ring and a pretty impressive career.
 
Carlos V. doesn't get out of the third inning after giving up 8 runs. I'm starting to wonder if the league has started to figure him out - his ERA has gone from under 3 to over 4 in his last four appearances. Hopefully this is just a stretch and he will get back to his earlier season form. 8-1 Rays in the bottom of the 4th.
 
Saint Nik said:
Pretty amazing career came to an end today. Matt Stairs retired with 265 homeruns, 899 RsBI and 294 doubles. He did this for a record 13 teams and despite not getting a real shot in the majors until he was 27, not being a regular until he was 29.

He was short, he was fat and he was slow but he would get on base and hit for power(a career 117 OPS+). If Moneyball had been written ten years earlier Stairs may have ended up with 400+ homeruns. As is, he retires with a World Series ring and a pretty impressive career.
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Always liked Stairs for that ... did a lot with a little...
 
Derk said:
Carlos V. doesn't get out of the third inning after giving up 8 runs. I'm starting to wonder if the league has started to figure him out - his ERA has gone from under 3 to over 4 in his last four appearances. Hopefully this is just a stretch and he will get back to his earlier season form. 8-1 Rays in the bottom of the 4th.
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It's possible, but I wonder how much fatigue is starting to factor in here as well.  His 12 starts are the most he's had in his career so this is somewhat unchartered territory for him.  Two years ago he pitched 96 innings in 64 appearances (6 of which were starts) -- he's already thrown 95 innings this year in only 25 games.  I wonder if the Jays take the approach of either skipping a start here or there or simply shutting him down as they did with Morrow last year; he's proving to be a valuable member of either the starting rotation as a 4/5 starter or in the bullpen.
 
Good point, Peter. Willner and Blair were just on the FAN discussing this very thing. It is probably a more accurate assessment than mine. :)

That being said, Jays game just started. E5 came up with the bases loaded and none out and leading 1-0 and grounded into a double play. A run scored, but no RBI, again. This guy has been poison coming up with runners in scoring position. He has 27 doubles, 9 home runs, but only 29 RBI. I really hope he improves those stats, or they will probably need to think about moving him out of the 5-hole (he has scored 41 runs, which is 6th on the team) or off the team altogether.
 
Peter D. said:
It's possible, but I wonder how much fatigue is starting to factor in here as well.  His 12 starts are the most he's had in his career so this is somewhat unchartered territory for him.  Two years ago he pitched 96 innings in 64 appearances (6 of which were starts) -- he's already thrown 95 innings this year in only 25 games.  I wonder if the Jays take the approach of either skipping a start here or there or simply shutting him down as they did with Morrow last year; he's proving to be a valuable member of either the starting rotation as a 4/5 starter or in the bullpen.
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Apparently, he went for an MRI today (or is scheduled to or something along those lines) because the feeling is that there's something wrong with his arm.
 
Busta Reims said:
Peter D. said:
It's possible, but I wonder how much fatigue is starting to factor in here as well.  His 12 starts are the most he's had in his career so this is somewhat unchartered territory for him.  Two years ago he pitched 96 innings in 64 appearances (6 of which were starts) -- he's already thrown 95 innings this year in only 25 games.  I wonder if the Jays take the approach of either skipping a start here or there or simply shutting him down as they did with Morrow last year; he's proving to be a valuable member of either the starting rotation as a 4/5 starter or in the bullpen.
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Apparently, he went for an MRI today (or is scheduled to or something along those lines) because the feeling is that there's something wrong with his arm.
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That would suck. :(

Willner and Blair mentioned today that he had lost some velocity.
 
Derk said:
That being said, Jays game just started. E5 came up with the bases loaded and none out and leading 1-0 and grounded into a double play. A run scored, but no RBI, again. This guy has been poison coming up with runners in scoring position. He has 27 doubles, 9 home runs, but only 29 RBI. I really hope he improves those stats, or they will probably need to think about moving him out of the 5-hole (he has scored 41 runs, which is 6th on the team) or off the team altogether.
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Although that's one of those scoring things I've never entirely understood. Seems as though a ground ball that produces a run should probably count for an RBI.
 
Saint Nik said:
Derk said:
That being said, Jays game just started. E5 came up with the bases loaded and none out and leading 1-0 and grounded into a double play. A run scored, but no RBI, again. This guy has been poison coming up with runners in scoring position. He has 27 doubles, 9 home runs, but only 29 RBI. I really hope he improves those stats, or they will probably need to think about moving him out of the 5-hole (he has scored 41 runs, which is 6th on the team) or off the team altogether.
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Although that's one of those scoring things I've never entirely understood. Seems as though a ground ball that produces a run should probably count for an RBI.
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You would think so, but here we are. :)

I'd be interested to know how may RBI he has on double play groundouts.
 
Derk said:
You would think so, but here we are. :)

I'd be interested to know how may RBI he has on double play groundouts.
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I just looked up his splits and another thing that may be hurting his RBI count is that he's hitting worse the higher up in the order he hits.  He's batting .333 with a .900+ OPS hitting 7th or 8th but around .260 with a .730 OPS hitting 5th or 6th.
 
Listening to Wilner the other night... FWIW, he feels Janssen might be the only returning arm for this pen next year. I hope he's right.
 
Lawrie and Perez up. Snider down... Villanueva to the DL.

http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=373208

Thrilled to finally see Lawrie but how they're handling Snider puzzels me. Just let him try to hit as much MLB pitching as he can for God's sake. It's not like we're competing for a playoff spot or anything.
 
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