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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

GhostOfPotvin29 said:
Bautista just got beaned in the head.  I have it on mute since I'm in class, so hopefully he's alright.

Looks like it went off the helmet and that he's okay. From the sounds of things, he was taken out for precautionary reasons more than anything else.
 
Good to hear. Bautista has had some hard luck with injuries after the all-star break. He was on a serious roll, then he hurt his ankle, now hit by a pitch. :( Hopefully he comes back strong.

Too bad about Mr. Morrow's performance last night. On paper it looked like a win for the Jays, but that's why they play the games.

And the Mariners have lost 17 straight now. :o
 
Derk said:
And the Mariners have lost 17 straight now. :o

They were very much in the fight for the divisional title before that happened - only 2.5 games back. Over the span of the losing streak, they've lost 13 games in the standings. Over the span of a month, they went from being in playoff contention to being tied for the 4th worst record in MLB.
 
Luckily, Bautista was fine.  The Orioles' pitcher Jake Arrieta, who himself took a ball hit on his foot, had asked the trainer to pass on his concern to Bautista.  He claimed that the pitch was a "non-intent" and that he felt terrible about what had happened.

Also, it was the Orioles' first  back-to-back wins at the Rogers Centre, a place they've had some hard luck to play in, since June 6-7 of 2008.  Baltimore had lost 16 straight at the Rogers Centre until June 16, having lost 25 out of 29 games here.
 
Sources: SP Edwin Jackson + 3B Mark Teahen to Jays for RP Jason Frasor and a prospect?

http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/96222026397782017
 
Floyd said:
Sources: SP Edwin Jackson + 3B Mark Teahen to Jays for RP Jason Frasor and a prospect?

http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/96222026397782017

Unless the plan is to flip Jackson in another deal, don't really understand this one. Teahen has been awful since leaving KC and Jackson really only has one above average season on his resume and, like Frasor, is a free agent at end of the season (he's also a Type B, but, in his case, just barely). Not that I expect a ton in return for Frasor, but, I would have thought AA would have been looking for a quality prospect or two instead of an ordinary starter and a bench player.
 
Busta Reims said:
Floyd said:
Sources: SP Edwin Jackson + 3B Mark Teahen to Jays for RP Jason Frasor and a prospect?

http://twitter.com/#!/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/96222026397782017

Unless the plan is to flip Jackson in another deal, don't really understand this one. Teahen has been awful since leaving KC and Jackson really only has one above average season on his resume and, like Frasor, is a free agent at end of the season (he's also a Type B, but, in his case, just barely). Not that I expect a ton in return for Frasor, but, I would have thought AA would have been looking for a quality prospect or two instead of an ordinary starter and a bench player.

Maybe the plan would be to let Jackson go and get the sandwich pick as he would for Frasor? If that's the case, perhaps its the bench player for a "meh" prospect? Perhaps one of our other bench players would be on the move?
 
Floyd said:
Maybe the plan would be to let Jackson go and get the sandwich pick as he would for Frasor? If that's the case, perhaps its the bench player for a "meh" prospect? Perhaps one of our other bench players would be on the move?

Doubt it, as not only would the pick they Jays would receive for Jackson come after the pick they would receive for Frasor, Jackson is very much a borderline Type B guy right now and at serious risk of dropping below the threshold, leaving the Jays with no pick. Teahen for a meh prospect on its own wouldn't be a terrible move, if it wasn't for the fact that he's set to earn $5.5M next season - if they Jays were to take on that contract, there'd have to be some serious incentive, and, to me, adding Jackson to a non-contending roster doesn't do that. Neither does adding Jackson to move another starter - the Jays have plenty of guys in the minors capable of handling the job for a couple months were that to happen, and it wouldn't require taking on a bad contract and downgrading a draft pick. Unless Jackson is being flipped, this one doesn't make sense.
 
Busta Reims said:
Floyd said:
Maybe the plan would be to let Jackson go and get the sandwich pick as he would for Frasor? If that's the case, perhaps its the bench player for a "meh" prospect? Perhaps one of our other bench players would be on the move?

Doubt it, as not only would the pick they Jays would receive for Jackson come after the pick they would receive for Frasor, Jackson is very much a borderline Type B guy right now and at serious risk of dropping below the threshold, leaving the Jays with no pick. Teahen for a meh prospect on its own wouldn't be a terrible move, if it wasn't for the fact that he's set to earn $5.5M next season - if they Jays were to take on that contract, there'd have to be some serious incentive, and, to me, adding Jackson to a non-contending roster doesn't do that. Neither does adding Jackson to move another starter - the Jays have plenty of guys in the minors capable of handling the job for a couple months were that to happen, and it wouldn't require taking on a bad contract and downgrading a draft pick. Unless Jackson is being flipped, this one doesn't make sense.

Yeah, that would make the most sense I think.
 
Floyd said:
Yeah, that would make the most sense I think.

It's the only way I can really make sense of it. Every other angle doesn't work for me - especially, considering his poor numbers about the BoSox and the Yanks.
 
Busta Reims said:
Floyd said:
EJax + prospects(s) for Rasmus?

Rumour is Jackson and a bullpen arm as the centrepieces for Rasmus, if the ChiSox deal goes through.

Rasmus is a great player... Great bridge until Gose is ready and possibly beyond if Gose never does make it for some reason. 
 
Floyd said:
Rasmus is a great player... Great bridge until Gose is ready and possibly beyond if Gose never does make it for some reason.

I'd hesitate to call him a great player, because he's only in his 3rd year and really has only had one above average season so far, but, Rasmus' bat has great potential. He needs some work defensively, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved to a corner outfield position in the future.
 
Busta Reims said:
Floyd said:
Rasmus is a great player... Great bridge until Gose is ready and possibly beyond if Gose never does make it for some reason.

I'd hesitate to call him a great player, because he's only in his 3rd year and really has only had one above average season so far, but, Rasmus' bat has great potential. He needs some work defensively, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's moved to a corner outfield position in the future.

Well, sure. I should have said projects to be or something to that affect... Could be the solution to our lead-off woes too. I like Escobar much better @ #2 or #5/#6.
 
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: Money appears only holdup in 3-team deal that would send EJax to #Cardinals, Rasmus to #BlueJays. MORE #WhiteSox #tradedeadline #MLB
1 minute ago
 

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