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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

Floyd said:
Well, sure. I should have said projects to be or something to that affect... Could be the solution to our lead-off woes too. I like Escobar much better @ #2 or #5/#6.
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He's not really a lead-off type bat, what with his career OBP of .334 and all. Escobar's actually a pretty good fit at the top of the order - not a typical lead-off guy, but, he gets on base at a good clip, which is what's really important.
 
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#BlueJays surely sending more than EJax, potential FA, to #Cardinals for Rasmus, who is under control for 3 more yrs. #tradedeadline #MLB
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Interested to see what the trade ends up being. Rasmus is a good player who, defensive issues aside, looks to provide pretty good value. That said it's always going to be a red flag if a respected guy like Tony Larussa is publicly talking about a player's off-field issues and looking to get rid of him as a result.
 
Saint Nik said:
Interested to see what the trade ends up being. Rasmus is a good player who, defensive issues aside, looks to provide pretty good value. That said it's always going to be a red flag if a respected guy like Tony Larussa is publicly talking about a player's off-field issues and looking to deal him accordingly.
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Yeah, but, being that he's a couple weeks shy of his 25th birthday, I'm willing to write off some of Rasmus' off-field issues to immaturity rather than character issues - though, there have been rumblings about his father being and issue, which is somewhat troubling. As long as he produces on the field and doesn't disrupt the locker-room, I'm willing to overlook most potential off-field issues.
 
Busta Reims said:
Yeah, but, being that he's a couple weeks shy of his 25th birthday, I'm willing to write off some of Rasmus' off-field issues to immaturity rather than character issues - though, there have been rumblings about his father being and issue, which is somewhat troubling. As long as he produces on the field and doesn't disrupt the locker-room, I'm willing to overlook most potential off-field issues.
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This is baseball. Produce on the field and I'm willing to overlook drinking, drugs and, in one memorable case, wife-swapping. The issue, as you point out, is the extent to which the off-field issues are a reason as to his regression this year.

So it'll boil down, I think, to whatever the + ends up being if the reports are true and the Jays have to toss in more. Odds and ends and it's a good gamble to take, anything to see less of Davis in the regular lineup. Something significant and, well, we'll see.
 
Deebo said:
Jackson and Teahan for Z. Stewart and Frasor.
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Not a fan of Stewart being included in this one. Rasmus better be coming back without another top prospect being added to the deal.
 
Busta Reims said:
Deebo said:
Jackson and Teahan for Z. Stewart and Frasor.
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Not a fan of Stewart being included in this one. Rasmus better be coming back without another top prospect being added to the deal.
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Tough to see Stewart go but was he a "top" prospect? 
 
Floyd said:
Busta Reims said:
Deebo said:
Jackson and Teahan for Z. Stewart and Frasor.
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Not a fan of Stewart being included in this one. Rasmus better be coming back without another top prospect being added to the deal.
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Tough to see Stewart go but was he a "top" prospect?
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BA had him as the #5 prospect in the organization at the end of last year.
 
Saint Nik said:
Floyd said:
Busta Reims said:
Deebo said:
Jackson and Teahan for Z. Stewart and Frasor.
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Not a fan of Stewart being included in this one. Rasmus better be coming back without another top prospect being added to the deal.
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Tough to see Stewart go but was he a "top" prospect?
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BA had him as the #5 prospect in the organization at the end of last year.
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This strikes me (using your catch phrase) as the type of deal you'd dig. - Finally burning a prospect (or two maybe) to bring in an established player. If memory serves, you were frustrated by AA collecting prospects while shedding players. (ie. Marcum.)   
 
I'm not familiar with the development of starting pitching, are there many significant starters who were still at the AA level at 24?

On another note, not a big deal but I wish Frasor didn't break that appearances record, would rather have had it held by someone like Ward who contributed to success.
 
Some talk that it's Gose going with Jackson for Rasmus, someone on HF says ESPN's Olney is reporting that.

I can't find that online anywhere though.
 
Floyd said:
This strikes me (using your catch phrase) as the type of deal you'd dig. - Finally burning a prospect (or two maybe) to bring in an established player. If memory serves, you were frustrated by AA collecting prospects while shedding players. (ie. Marcum.) 
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I typically like to think about the quality of the players involved too.
 
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