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2014/15 Leafs Injuries Thread

Potvin29 said:
He's taking part in the morning skate right now.

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From what it looked like in slow mo his ankle turned to a very unnatural position, hope it is not a break, but even if it was a severe strain, he will be out for at least 2 months.  I am not a Doctor but do play one on TV
 
Quick injury update:

Paul Hendrick @HennyTweets  ?  20h 20 hours ago
Daniel Winnik says he's good to go. No expected return imminently for Booth and Lupul is at least a week away from joining team. #TMLtalk

Booth's injury is keeping him out longer than expected. He was supposed to miss 4-6 weeks and he just past the 6 week mark.
 
markhmasters: Kozun (ankle) joins Booth, Lupul on ice skating before Leafs practice; 1st time I've seen Brandon out there since injury (Oct. 17)
 
bustaheims said:
markhmasters: Kozun (ankle) joins Booth, Lupul on ice skating before Leafs practice; 1st time I've seen Brandon out there since injury (Oct. 17)

I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.

I don't think he sticks, either. Honestly, I never really saw much in him to start with. He had a good camp, but, once the real games started, he seemed out of place.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I can't see Kozun sticking around once he returns. He was getting close to losing his spot in the line-up even before the injury.

I don't think he sticks, either. Honestly, I never really saw much in him to start with. He had a good camp, but, once the real games started, he seemed out of place.

You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.
 
freer said:
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.
 
bustaheims said:
freer said:
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

well so are Ashton and Frattin.
 
bustaheims said:
freer said:
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

And his big attribute was his speed on the PK.  Bozak is there for his face off ability.  Holland has shown he can be adept there too.  Komarov is likely our best PKer and between Santorelli, Booth, JVR, even Kadri there really isn't a need for him.

He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.
 
L K said:
He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

Teams in general need to do a better job evaluating talent during preseason. Legit NHL players use preseason to get up to speed and prepare for the regular season. AHL players have to act like it's the playoffs because they know it might be their only shot at the NHL. It's easy for guys like Kozun and Carrick to look good just by giving 110% during games where most players are only giving 50-70%.
 
freer said:
well so are Ashton and Frattin.

Maybe - though, I feel like Ashton showed a lot more usefulness as a bottom 6 player in his few games this season than Kozun did - but, he's not competing against them for a spot in the lineup. All 3 of them are on the outside, looking in when everyone is healthy.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

Teams in general need to do a better job evaluating talent during preseason. Legit NHL players use preseason to get up to speed and prepare for the regular season. AHL players have to act like it's the playoffs because they known it might be their only shot at the NHL. It's easy for guys like Kozun and Carrick to look good just by giving 110% during games where most players are only giving 50-70%.

Happens every year with 1 or 2 players.
 
L K said:
bustaheims said:
freer said:
You are comparing him to who? the likes of Frattin and Ashton. He has 10 times the talent, in half their size.

To everyone else who played with or against him when he was on the ice in the games he got into. He wasn't good enough. His size did him no favours, and he really did not show the talent that you claim to see. He's an AHL calibre player - a good one, but, still AHL calibre.

And his big attribute was his speed on the PK.  Bozak is there for his face off ability.  Holland has shown he can be adept there too.  Komarov is likely our best PKer and between Santorelli, Booth, JVR, even Kadri there really isn't a need for him.

He was a nice preseason story and nothing more.

But Kozun doesn't have to be better than JVR and Kadri.  If everybody's healthy, we have:

JVR - Boz - Phil
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Winnik
Booth - Santorelli - ???

That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?
 
Crucialness Key said:
JVR - Boz - Phil
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Komarov - Holland - Winnik
Booth - Santorelli - ???

That final spot would be Kozun, Panik, or I guess Leivo.... you don't think Kozun has any shot?

In my perfect world we would keep Smith up and leave Holland at 3C and Santorelli on the wing. That would be 12 forwards. In your situation (which is a lot more likely) yeah Panik probably has that last forward spot secured. I'd put Leivo and probably even Bodie ahead of Kozun on the depth chart as well.
 

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