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2014-2015 NHL Thread

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Potvin29 said:
I think the 81.5 is guessing their point total this season?  I'm not a betting person so I could be way off.

Correct. So you would pick if their season-ending point total would be over or under 81.5 points. And considering last season they finished with 79 points with Tavares only playing 59 games, that should be pretty easy money for me.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
I think the 81.5 is guessing their point total this season?  I'm not a betting person so I could be way off.

Correct. So you would pick if their season-ending point total would be over or under 81.5 points. And considering last season they finished with 79 points with Tavares only playing 59 games, that should be pretty easy money for me.

Yeah and considering their moves (even before the moves for the two D) that seemed quite low.
 
Potvin29 said:
Yeah and considering their moves (even before the moves for the two D) that seemed quite low.

I think the number went up slightly like within hours of it being posted because so many people were going for the over. I got my bet placed before that though.
 
I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere, I didn't see it, but Jake Muzzin was re-signed to a 5 year/20 million dollar extension two days ago. Which, considering how he rates by advanced stats, seems like it's leaving a ton of money on the table.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere, I didn't see it, but Jake Muzzin was re-signed to a 5 year/20 million dollar extension two days ago. Which, considering how he rates by advanced stats, seems like it's leaving a ton of money on the table.

Former 5th round pick by Pittsburgh in 2007. They didn't sign him and he re-entered the draft in 09 but wasn't picked by anybody. LA signed him as a free agent and 4 years later he's a top pairing defenceman. That's quite the story.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Former 5th round pick by Pittsburgh in 2007. They didn't sign him and he re-entered the draft in 09 but wasn't picked by anybody. LA signed him as a free agent and 4 years later he's a top pairing defenceman. That's quite the story.

What's crazy is, by the With Or Without You possession numbers, Muzzin's were actually better last season away from Doughty than with him (obviously more context to it, but it's still impressive): http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2014/8/7/5973213/2014-season-review-jake-muzzin

I remember watching him with the Soo Greyhounds.  He had a pretty serious back injury in 2005 so he was eased into his OHL career.  I always wondered if that made him sort of a 'late bloomer' losing some development time when he did become a full-time OHLer.  His first OHL season wasn't until he was 17-18 and only played 37 games, really wasn't until he was an overager that he put up a big season.
 
Patrick said:
IT's pretty crazy that Grigorenko still can't make an awful Sabres team.

By a lot of accounts he should have made the team based on his training camp. After how badly the Sabres handled him last season it's possible they want to make sure they take things slowly this season. I wouldn't write him off as a prospect just yet.
 
I don't want to break any news or anything but that Steven Stamkos guy is a pretty good goalscorer.
 
http://corsihockeyleague.com/2014/10/19/dave-bolland-a-story-of-narratives/

An interesting comparison and lesson in how much a good PR person can help your career.
 
Patrick said:
http://corsihockeyleague.com/2014/10/19/dave-bolland-a-story-of-narratives/

An interesting comparison and lesson in how much a good PR person can help your career.

I have some issues with that article but this passage, when comparing Bolland and Connolly's relative health, really stuck out to me as poorly argued and displaying a fundamental misunderstanding of how teams will look at a player's injury history:

Player A consistently played a top 6 role throughout his NHL career, before coming to Toronto. In those 10 seasons, he put up a 0.630 points per game pace and averaged just shy of 63 games a season. When he came to Toronto, this player was known as very injury prone. He had various injuries over his career including a season where he missed 80 games in the regular season due to a concussion. Even with all that considered, Player A still managed to average more games per season than Dave Bolland over nearly twice the amount of years.

Tim Connolly's career, in terms of health, had two clear periods. In his first 4 years in the league he averaged over 81 games a year. In his next 6 years, he averaged 50 games per season. When the Leafs acquired Connolly they weren't signing him at 21 when he seemed capable of playing 80 games a season like clockwork, they were signing him at 30 after 6 years where he only played more than 70 games once. To present him as "healthier" than Bolland based on the ten year average of his career seems more than a little disingenuous considering the realities of what the Leafs were dealing with. Lots of players are healthy until they aren't.

To the extent that a player can be injury prone, especially when it comes to concussions, I think most people would say that the concern is that it snowballs. Each concussion makes the next one a career ender likelier. I don't think, though, that most people would say that about what happened to Bolland's Achilles in quite the same way.
 
Renaud Lavoie ‏@renlavoietva  10m10 minutes ago
Are the Oilers ready to trade Nail Yakupov ? One thing for sure, they're teams interested right now. #tvasports

They probably should have just drafted Murray.. or Galchenyuk.. or Rielly... or Lindholm... or Dumba

I don't think they could make a straight one for one deal for any of those players today.
 
I knew Buffalo was really bad, but somehow I hadn't noticed that Buffalo was 9 goals scored (1.3 G/GM) and 26 goals against (3.7 GA/GM) in 7 games bad.  They're basically averaging 3 goals against for every goal scored so far.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
I knew Buffalo was really bad, but somehow I hadn't noticed that Buffalo was 9 goals scored (1.3 G/GM) and 26 goals against (3.7 GA/GM) in 7 games bad.  They're basically averaging 3 goals against for every goal scored so far.

I'm not following their logic with Zadorov.  He's way down on their depth chart but they won't send him down to the OHL.  I get that he's too physically strong for minor hockey but I'm struggling to see how no hockey is superior to. Playing hockey.
 
L K said:
I'm not following their logic with Zadorov.  He's way down on their depth chart but they won't send him down to the OHL.  I get that he's too physically strong for minor hockey but I'm struggling to see how no hockey is superior to. Playing hockey.

They did the same thing with Grigerenko last season. Their development philosophy is a little weird. They're rushing some guys to the NHL, and then barely using them. They're doing things even worse than Edmonton
 
Nathan Mackinnon has 0 goals and 4 assists and a -6 in 10 games. Sophomore slump? Looks like that whole team is in a downward spiral. Roy lost his magic potion.
 
mc said:
Nathan Mackinnon has 0 goals and 4 assists and a -6 in 10 games. Sophomore slump? Looks like that whole team is in a downward spiral. Roy lost his magic potion.

In terms of advanced stats, it's like they're a year behind the Leafs. There position numbers weren't very good last season, and it's catching up to them this season.
 
mc said:
Nathan Mackinnon has 0 goals and 4 assists and a -6 in 10 games. Sophomore slump? Looks like that whole team is in a downward spiral. Roy lost his magic potion.

I just hope he breaks out next week the game after we play them
 
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