Potvin29 said:
He may as well just officially file his retirement papers, I'm sure the league still wouldn't have him count against the Flyers cap.
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He may as well just officially file his retirement papers, I'm sure the league still wouldn't have him count against the Flyers cap.
Deebo said:
Because he's 99.99999999% retired.
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Deebo said:
Technically, he does. They just get an LTIR exemption for him. As long as the concussion is still legitimately keeping him from being able to safely be a part of their lineup, I really don't have a problem with it. I don't really have a problem with the HHoF's decision here, either. It doesn't benefit any of the teams in the league in the slightest. Regardless of the contract situation, if a guy hasn't played in 3 seasons, I'd consider him to be de facto retired. Why shouldn't an organization that exists as a separate entity to the league make allowances for that?
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bustaheims said:
Yeah I don't care what the HHOF does too much, it's just added on to the other stuff the NHL has allowed with Pronger.
Potvin29 said:
Basically this. I don't really care that the Bruins get relief from Savard for instance. But the fact that the NHL is breaking it's own rules and creating a massive conflict of interest by hiring Pronger means that I'll be extra upset whenever Pronger's situation is brought up. Also because this is now the 3rd time the Flyers have used LTIR to save themselves from the absolutely ridiculous contracts that they've signed.
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Potvin29 said:
The only thing I don't like is the fact that they hired him for a position in player safety while he was still under contract. Everything else fell within the rules at the time, so, really, no issues there - as long as the league stays consistent with it (which, so far, they have).
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CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Yeah so as I understand it, as long as he doesn't retire they're gaining the additional room from the LTIR right? Thus they aren't being hit with the 35+ contract rule that would apply if he retires (aka his $5 million hit would still be applied against their cap), is that the correct interpretation?
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Potvin29 said:
Basically, yeah. They're taking advantage of a bit of a loophole, but, providing that Pronger has legitimately not recovered to the point where he can safely play at the NHL level, it's all legal. His contract does still technically count against their cap (and, in fact, in the summer, it counts in full, taking up more of their offseason overage allowance), they just get an exemption in the full amount until he's medically cleared to play (which, obviously, he's not likely to be).
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bustaheims said:
Alright - and that's where the annoyance that he's working for DoPS comes in.
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Potvin29 said:
Yup. That was a poor move by the league. If they gave him a job in any number of other departments in the head office, it probably wouldn't be an issue, but, giving him one that directly impacts active players like that . . . that was dumb.
bustaheims said:
They could have given him the same job just with a different title or something. Pretend it's a joint NHLPA-NHL committee where Pronger is the only full-time NHLPA member on it. I just want them to at least act like they know what they're doing is wrong.
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bustaheims said:
I mean Bettman even said at the time "he's done playing."
So not even the illusion that he's on LTIR for an injury that might technically heal. He's just "retired" in all but name. And I don't think Pronger or the Flyers have done anything wrong, but if he wants to work for the NHL he should have to retire, or he should not get to work with them and have to live with the risk he took by signing his 35+ deal that he might have to make a decision like this one day that could hurt the Flyers.
I also like that Capgeek had to do this: http://capgeek.com/faq/how-does-chris-pronger-count-against-the-cap
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Islanders defeat Lightning 5-2 on the Island, spoiling the return in goal of Tampa Bay's Evgeni Nabokov, while Grabovski named third star of the game.
Source: Sportsnet
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In a "Beasts of the East" duel, Penguins defeated the Habs 4-1, with Pittsburgh's third line providing the scoring histrionics:
"You're not going to win consistently without that," Crosby said. "There's no kind of hiding from that. You need everyone to contribute to play the right way and we've gotten that all year so that's a huge part of having success in the regular season and the playoffs.
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/recap?id=2014020272
"You're not going to win consistently without that," Crosby said. "There's no kind of hiding from that. You need everyone to contribute to play the right way and we've gotten that all year so that's a huge part of having success in the regular season and the playoffs.
http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/recap?id=2014020272
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Please tell me that picture was taken either 30 minutes before, or after the game.
Bullfrog said:
It was actually because Neuvirth injured himself in the 1st period and the Sabres needed a back-up goalie for the rest of the game just in case something happened to Enroth. So they threw some pads on Irbe who is their goaltending coach. It's a common practice really in situations like that. Same thing happened a few weeks ago with the Ducks so they had 45-year old Dwayne Roloson, their goalie consultant, suit up.
It was Patrick Kaleta who actually couldn't make it to the game because he was snowed in.
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