• For users coming over from tmlfans.ca your username will remain the same but you will need to use the password reset feature (check your spam folder) on the login page in order to set your password. If you encounter issues, email Rick couchmanrick@gmail.com

2014-2015 NHL Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Patrick said:
I've really liked it when used in the AHL. It's closer to 4 on 4 than it is the shootout, doesn't seem gimmicky at all.

I wonder if those with reservations have seen it in action. It allows for some incredible skill and creativity.

Admittedly, I haven't seen it at all. I should probably give it a shot first.
 
I'm not happy with the level of compete in the NHL these days it appears there are only a few teams i would sit down and watch an entire game.
To say the NHL has deteriorated under Bettman is an understatement. I don't watch the games anymore.
I have probably watched 1/2 a Leafs game and turned it off. They play the "I don't want the hot potato game" with the puck.
Bunch of wimps.

The shootout is a fail to me. There are to many teams and not enough positions with quality players. Defence/Forward.
Plus this scrum hockey is sad. It's like watching rugby with skates on.
Where did all the creativity go?
Each year the G.M's get together and play with a game which they have no business interfering with.
The more they mess with it the less i'm gonna watch. 3 on 3 gimme a break.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Patrick said:
I've really liked it when used in the AHL. It's closer to 4 on 4 than it is the shootout, doesn't seem gimmicky at all.

I'd agree it wouldn't seem gimmicky if this was being proposed as being instead of a shootout but if it's in addition to it you're getting to a point where games can now be decided under four different sets of rules or number of players on the ice.

I can see that, but when people see it I think they'll be very impressed.

Anything that keeps games from being decided by the skills contest is a good thing in my opinion.
 
Madferret said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Ties are the devil. You guys are crazy.

Basically there is no perfect solution to the problem. What about no OT at all just straight ties after 60?

Oh god, burn it with fire!

The best solution is to have regulation -> 4-on-4 for 10 minutes* -> shootout. Change the points scheme so you get 3 points for a regulation win or something like that.

I doubt they ever set OTs at 10 minutes so the AHL format of 7-minute OTs with 4-on-4/3-on-3 play is fine there.
 
I think they should just keep what they have.  The idea of having 3-on-3 or even 4-on-4 somehow isn't that appealing, maybe not even quite fair -- I would want all of my 5 players out there.

As it is now is fine, just perhaps extend the OT to, as someone mentioned previously, 7-8 minutes.  If there is no winner, then go to shootout.  Either keep the same points system or tinker with it a bit.
 
I want to watch a 3 period hockey game.  After 60 you are done.  Want to stop teams playing for ties, follow the EPL and award 3pts for a win.  To all those "tradition" dissenters to 3pt wins, we just watched a decade of shootouts with points handed out to the losers.

Edit:

I would also like 4 divisions per conference with 4 teams. 4x4x2=32 teams playing 80 games
8 divisional games per team = 24
2 conference games per team = 24
2 cross conference games per team = 32
Total games = 80

Top 2 teams from each division make the playoffs.
 
JohnK's Revenge said:
I want to watch a 3 period hockey game.  After 60 you are done.  Want to stop teams playing for ties, follow the EPL and award 3pts for a win.  To all those "tradition" dissenters to 3pt wins, we just watched a decade of shootouts with points handed out to the losers.

That would probably be good motivation for teams to avoid a tie.
 
JohnK's Revenge said:
I want to watch a 3 period hockey game.  After 60 you are done.  Want to stop teams playing for ties, follow the EPL and award 3pts for a win.  To all those "tradition" dissenters to 3pt wins, we just watched a decade of shootouts with points handed out to the losers.

Edit:

I would also like 4 divisions per conference with 4 teams. 4x4x2=32 teams playing 80 games
8 divisional games per team = 24
2 conference games per team = 24
2 cross conference games per team = 32
Total games = 80

Top 2 teams from each division make the playoffs.

I dislike this because you could have a team finishing with more points in another division missing out on a playoff birth.  I like seeing the top 8 point getting teams make the playoffs in each division.

 
CarltonTheBear said:
The best solution is to have regulation -> 4-on-4 for 10 minutes* -> shootout. Change the points scheme so you get 3 points for a regulation win or something like that.

I can support that. If 4-on-4 is so exciting, then a few more minutes of it wouldn't be such a bad thing, right?
 
Bullfrog said:
CarltonTheBear said:
The best solution is to have regulation -> 4-on-4 for 10 minutes* -> shootout. Change the points scheme so you get 3 points for a regulation win or something like that.

I can support that. If 4-on-4 is so exciting, then a few more minutes of it wouldn't be such a bad thing, right?

I think they should play 10 minutes of 3 on 3 with an orange road hockey ball and the team with the most goals in the 10-minute period wins.
 
I didn't realize before how many people hated the tie and felt that each game needed a winner.  After 65 minutes, if a game was tied, I could live with it and each getting a point.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
I think they should just keep what they have.  The idea of having 3-on-3 or even 4-on-4 somehow isn't that appealing, maybe not even quite fair -- I would want all of my 5 players out there.

Do you watch hockey?

This reads like you don't know they've hade 4-on-4 OT for quite some time.
 
Peter D. said:
I didn't realize before how many people hated the tie and felt that each game needed a winner.  After 65 minutes, if a game was tied, I could live with it and each getting a point.
That really isn't what the issue was.  It was the manipulation of the results.  When teams that were borderline in the standings needed to squeeze out a few points and a tie was beneficial to both, they would stand there staring at each other for the last five minutes of the game.  Then they added OT to help but it just meant that both teams had to stand around five minutes longer.. and then they invented the shoot out as the master solution to this.
 
Al14 said:
JohnK's Revenge said:
I want to watch a 3 period hockey game.  After 60 you are done.  Want to stop teams playing for ties, follow the EPL and award 3pts for a win.  To all those "tradition" dissenters to 3pt wins, we just watched a decade of shootouts with points handed out to the losers.

Edit:

I would also like 4 divisions per conference with 4 teams. 4x4x2=32 teams playing 80 games
8 divisional games per team = 24
2 conference games per team = 24
2 cross conference games per team = 32
Total games = 80

Top 2 teams from each division make the playoffs.

I dislike this because you could have a team finishing with more points in another division missing out on a playoff birth.  I like seeing the top 8 point getting teams make the playoffs in each division.
Everyone has their own take on that.  I prefer a geographical representation to generate interest nationwide.  Points wise i figure that at worst a 9th overall team beats an 8th overall team into the playoffs.  I just feel that if you want to make the playoffs then you better to what it takes to win your divisional games and increase the rivalry of the local divisional teams.  If points were the issue then the conferences should be abandoned altogether, top 16 in points should make it regardless of conference.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

About Us

This website is NOT associated with the Toronto Maple Leafs or the NHL.


It is operated by Rick Couchman and Jeff Lewis.
Back
Top