GhostofPotvin29
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Not sure if this has been posted, but McKeen's just released their final Top 30 for the 2015 draft and they have Strome at #7: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-final-top-30-2015-nhl-draft-rankings/
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GhostofPotvin29
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Nik the Trik said:
Yes, although Button has him 47th.
bustaheims said:
A couple of days ago Bryan Murray said that Lehner had fully recovered from his concussion.
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Gardiner51 said:
Clickbait. Nothing more. Nothing less. Guys shouldn't be moving around 3/4 of the way through a season unless drastic things change between these players. It's just moving guys around for the sake of page views.
I'm honestly shocked that there isn't at least one draft that has Eichel over McDavid.
Pronman did an article on the Leafs and how they might going through a rebuild. One of the charts he posted was how the current remaining teams acquired there top talent. Here is the chart:
METHOD PERCENT
Top-10 pick 22
No. 11-60 pick 35
No. 61-plus pick 9
Free agency 17
Trade 17
The only thing about the article was that he didn't really stipulate how he determined what the top talent was. His comment on this chart was:
"While we often talk about the teams that "tank" for the very best players in a draft class -- and late draft picks like Ondrej Palat generate chatter -- I want to direct your attention to the 11 through 60 section. From the current four teams I've mentioned, that includes Ryan Getzlaf, Derek Stepan,Brandon Saad, Duncan Keith, Corey Perry, Chris Kreider and Nikita Kucherov, among others. Some players that will become stars are hard to identify at the time, but players like Perry, Saad and Kucherov specifically were top talents that slid for one reason or another. Finding high-upside talent in the top 60 is a major differentiator."
I mainly posted this because it supports the arguments that Nik and Busta make when it comes to how the Leafs should approach their rebuild. He also brings up the point of how this talent is cheap and therefore essential in a hard cap system.
So yeah, the more picks they can get in that range, the better.
METHOD PERCENT
Top-10 pick 22
No. 11-60 pick 35
No. 61-plus pick 9
Free agency 17
Trade 17
The only thing about the article was that he didn't really stipulate how he determined what the top talent was. His comment on this chart was:
"While we often talk about the teams that "tank" for the very best players in a draft class -- and late draft picks like Ondrej Palat generate chatter -- I want to direct your attention to the 11 through 60 section. From the current four teams I've mentioned, that includes Ryan Getzlaf, Derek Stepan,Brandon Saad, Duncan Keith, Corey Perry, Chris Kreider and Nikita Kucherov, among others. Some players that will become stars are hard to identify at the time, but players like Perry, Saad and Kucherov specifically were top talents that slid for one reason or another. Finding high-upside talent in the top 60 is a major differentiator."
I mainly posted this because it supports the arguments that Nik and Busta make when it comes to how the Leafs should approach their rebuild. He also brings up the point of how this talent is cheap and therefore essential in a hard cap system.
So yeah, the more picks they can get in that range, the better.
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Significantly Insignificant said:
It's a good article and I agree with the general thrust of it but I do think it's important to look at those guys and keep one thing in mind. Perry, Kreider, Getzlaf, Keith...all of those guys took like, 4 or 5 years from when they were drafted to when they became the players we think of them today. Getzlaf first cracked 60 points at at 22. Perry didn't get there until 23. Keith didn't have a 35+ point season until he was 25. Kreider still hasn't cracked fifty points and he's 24.
Now, that doesn't discount that some of the other guys on that list got there a little quicker and you can hit some of those homeruns but when I hear people talk about the Leafs being competitive again in "3-4 years" I think they're putting a harsh burden on these guys to not only be good but to be major pieces right away. If you're looking for guys who can be central pieces quickly, you're really looking at the top 3 in the draft.
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah it was an interesting article. I didn't want to post all of it because I am not sure how people would feel about that, but the section after the one I posted was:
"A team can't just get top 10 picks forever and contend; after all, if they're bad enough to get those picks, the rebuild isn't going so hot. At one point, the NHL team needs to get a "hit" from their draft outside the top 10 to put some legs behind a rebuild. That's why general manager Craig MacTavish told the media that the Edmonton Oilers' poor draft record outside the top five from the past few years "undermined everything" in terms of their rebuild."
Again, this isn't a revelation. This information has been bandied about on this site for a while now.
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Joe S. said:
Kane is the player Marner is most frequently compared to, and there's a good chance he ends up playing RW as well.
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Joe S. said:
Yeah. I mean, between Hanifin, Marner and Strome, I'm not sure there's a wrong choice. I think they're all likely to become exceptional NHLers. It's really just a matter of who the Leafs think is most likely to reach their ceiling and is the best fit for them. As long as the Leafs take one of them and not Crouse with the 4th overall pick, I'll be happy.
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AvroArrow said:
Possibly. I can really only go on what I've read, and I've seen a lot more comparisons to Kane than I have to Giroux - at least, in terms of what I've read from scouting services and such.
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In any case if Babcock and Kessel cannot connect then Marner may become our new sniper. And Kessel will provide us with some good draft picks
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