2015 NHL Entry Draft

[GhostofPotvin29]

Not sure if this has been posted, but McKeen's just released their final Top 30 for the 2015 draft and they have Strome at #7: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-final-top-30-2015-nhl-draft-rankings/

 

[pmrules]

Not sure if this has been posted, but McKeen's just released their final Top 30 for the 2015 draft and they have Strome at #7: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-final-top-30-2015-nhl-draft-rankings/

Marner and Roy.

Jeremy Roy was touted to go higher than that by most other counts...

 

[Kin]

Not even having Kylington in their top 30 has got to be unusual, right?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Not even having Kylington in their top 30 has got to be unusual, right?

Yes, although Button has him 47th.

 

[herman]

Not sure if this has been posted, but McKeen's just released their final Top 30 for the 2015 draft and they have Strome at #7: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-final-top-30-2015-nhl-draft-rankings/

Marner and Roy.

Jeremy Roy was touted to go higher than that by most other counts...

I would be pretty pleased with this result.

 

[Kin]

Not even having Kylington in their top 30 has got to be unusual, right?

Yes, although Button has him 47th.

Jeez. That's something I would definitely pursue if the Leafs could, paying a premium even. If you could walk out of this with, you know, Marner or Strome or Hanifin and then Sprong Or Svechnikov and then Kylington?

I'd pretty jazzed.

 

[Kaberle15]

Hanifin is #12 on Craig's list... 

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-final-ranking-1.294692

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Lehner's recovering from a pretty serious concussion, and, as of a month ago, was still experiencing symptoms from it. He's not a sure bet to be able to play in the NHL in the 15/16 season. I imagine the sens will be pretty hesitant to make a move on their goalies until they have a clearer picture there, and, obviously, other teams will be really hesitant about parting with assets for a goalie who's recovering from a serious concussion. While I wouldn't make the deal being proposed, looking around at what might be available in terms of goalies this summer, Bernier seems like he could easily be the most appealing option.

A couple of days ago Bryan Murray said that Lehner had fully recovered from his concussion.

 

[L K]

Hanifin is #12 on Craig's list... 

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-final-ranking-1.294692

Clickbait. Nothing more.  Nothing less.  Guys shouldn't be moving around 3/4 of the way through a season unless drastic things change between these players.  It's just moving guys around for the sake of page views. 

I'm honestly shocked that there isn't at least one draft that has Eichel over McDavid.

 

[rdowdall]

Pronman did an article on the Leafs and how they might going through a rebuild.  One of the charts he posted was how the current remaining teams acquired there top talent.  Here is the chart:

METHOD             PERCENT
Top-10 pick         22
No. 11-60 pick         35
No. 61-plus pick   9
Free agency         17
Trade                 17

The only thing about the article was that he didn't really stipulate how he determined what the top talent was.  His comment on this chart was:

"While we often talk about the teams that "tank" for the very best players in a draft class -- and late draft picks like Ondrej Palat generate chatter -- I want to direct your attention to the 11 through 60 section. From the current four teams I've mentioned, that includes Ryan Getzlaf, Derek Stepan,Brandon Saad, Duncan Keith, Corey Perry, Chris Kreider and Nikita Kucherov, among others. Some players that will become stars are hard to identify at the time, but players like Perry, Saad and Kucherov specifically were top talents that slid for one reason or another. Finding high-upside talent in the top 60 is a major differentiator."

I mainly posted this because it supports the arguments that Nik and Busta make when it comes to how the Leafs should approach their rebuild.  He also brings up the point of how this talent is cheap and therefore essential in a hard cap system. 

So yeah, the more picks they can get in that range, the better.

 

[Kin]

I mainly posted this because it supports the arguments that Nik and Busta make when it comes to how the Leafs should approach their rebuild.  He also brings up the point of how this talent is cheap and therefore essential in a hard cap system. 

So yeah, the more picks they can get in that range, the better.

It's a good article and I agree with the general thrust of it but I do think it's important to look at those guys and keep one thing in mind. Perry, Kreider, Getzlaf, Keith...all of those guys took like, 4 or 5 years from when they were drafted to when they became the players we think of them today. Getzlaf first cracked 60 points at at 22. Perry didn't get there until 23. Keith didn't have a 35+ point season until he was 25. Kreider still hasn't cracked fifty points and he's 24.

Now, that doesn't discount that some of the other guys on that list got there a little quicker and you can hit some of those homeruns but when I hear people talk about the Leafs being competitive again in "3-4 years" I think they're putting a harsh burden on these guys to not only be good but to be major pieces right away. If you're looking for guys who can be central pieces quickly, you're really looking at the top 3 in the draft.

 

[rdowdall]

I mainly posted this because it supports the arguments that Nik and Busta make when it comes to how the Leafs should approach their rebuild.  He also brings up the point of how this talent is cheap and therefore essential in a hard cap system. 

So yeah, the more picks they can get in that range, the better.

It's a good article and I agree with the general thrust of it but I do think it's important to look at those guys and keep one thing in mind. Perry, Kreider, Getzlaf, Keith...all of those guys took like, 4 or 5 years from when they were drafted to when they became the players we think of them today. Getzlaf first cracked 60 points at at 22. Perry didn't get there until 23. Keith didn't have a 35+ point season until he was 25. Kreider still hasn't cracked fifty points and he's 24.

Now, that doesn't discount that some of the other guys on that list got there a little quicker and you can hit some of those homeruns but when I hear people talk about the Leafs being competitive again in "3-4 years" I think they're putting a harsh burden on these guys to not only be good but to be major pieces right away. If you're looking for guys who can be central pieces quickly, you're really looking at the top 3 in the draft.

Yeah it was an interesting article.  I didn't want to post all of it because I am not sure how people would feel about that, but the section after the one I posted was:

"A team can't just get top 10 picks forever and contend; after all, if they're bad enough to get those picks, the rebuild isn't going so hot. At one point, the NHL team needs to get a "hit" from their draft outside the top 10 to put some legs behind a rebuild. That's why general manager Craig MacTavish told the media that the Edmonton Oilers' poor draft record outside the top five from the past few years "undermined everything" in terms of their rebuild."

Again, this isn't a revelation.  This information has been bandied about on this site for a while now.

 

[Joe S.]

Watching the hawks,  watching Kane,  has given me hope to the leafs drafting marner. 

I know they play different positions, I don't even know if they have similar styles. It's more of a size thing.

The possibility of the leafs drafting a high end centre just blows my mind. 

 

[bustaheims]

Watching the hawks,  watching Kane,  has given me hope to the leafs drafting marner. 

I know they play different positions, I don't even know if they have similar styles. It's more of a size thing.

The possibility of the leafs drafting a high end centre just blows my mind.

Kane is the player Marner is most frequently compared to, and there's a good chance he ends up playing RW as well.

 

[Joe S.]

Well i'll take it.... And be very happy with it.

 

[bustaheims]

Well i'll take it.... And be very happy with it.

Yeah. I mean, between Hanifin, Marner and Strome, I'm not sure there's a wrong choice. I think they're all likely to become exceptional NHLers. It's really just a matter of who the Leafs think is most likely to reach their ceiling and is the best fit for them. As long as the Leafs take one of them and not Crouse with the 4th overall pick, I'll be happy.

 

[AvroArrow]

Watching the hawks,  watching Kane,  has given me hope to the leafs drafting marner. 

I know they play different positions, I don't even know if they have similar styles. It's more of a size thing.

The possibility of the leafs drafting a high end centre just blows my mind.

Kane is the player Marner is most frequently compared to, and there's a good chance he ends up playing RW as well.

Doesn't Marner have a much more rounded (ie: 200ft) game, though?  Closer to Giroux?

 

[bustaheims]

Doesn't Marner have a much more rounded (ie: 200ft) game, though?  Closer to Giroux?

Possibly. I can really only go on what I've read, and I've seen a lot more comparisons to Kane than I have to Giroux - at least, in terms of what I've read from scouting services and such.

 

[L K]

Doesn't Marner have a much more rounded (ie: 200ft) game, though?  Closer to Giroux?

Possibly. I can really only go on what I've read, and I've seen a lot more comparisons to Kane than I have to Giroux - at least, in terms of what I've read from scouting services and such.

He's somewhere in between the two players.  The constant comparisons to Kane have as much to do with the London Knights connection as their actual playing abilities.

 

[Highlander]

In any case if Babcock and Kessel cannot connect then Marner may become our new sniper. And Kessel will provide us with some good draft picks