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2016-2017 NHL Thread

herman said:
I kind of get that might be a misconception from some players (all that school they skip), but from management?
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Eh, they're just ex-players for the most part.
 
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I kind of get that might be a misconception from some players (all that school they skip), but from management?
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Eh, they're just ex-players for the most part.
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The trick is getting a coach who not only understands the numbers/reasons, but who also knows how to apply that info into actionable tactics.
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I kind of get that might be a misconception from some players (all that school they skip), but from management?
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Eh, they're just ex-players for the most part.
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The trick is getting a coach who not only understands the numbers/reasons, but who also knows how to apply that info into actionable tactics.
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I think you might be missing Blashill's point a little bit.

The idea is to coach to put the players in better shooting positions, and more often, in order to get the scoring chances, rather than just simply shooting the puck more.
 
Frank E said:
herman said:
The trick is getting a coach who not only understands the numbers/reasons, but who also knows how to apply that info into actionable tactics.
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I think you might be missing Blashill's point a little bit.

The idea is to coach to put the players in better shooting positions, and more often, in order to get the scoring chances, rather than just simply shooting the puck more.
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I interpreted what you just said here as an elaboration on what I said in the quote. I don't think I was advocating for merely shooting the puck more.

More along the lines of controlled exits/entries (hold and look), even though that goes against the traditional line of risk averse thinking (dump and chase, off the glass and out).
 
The Rangers currently have 12 (TWELVE) forwards scoring at least .59 points per game on the season. A .59 PPG translates to 48 points in 82 games.
 
herman said:
Frank E said:
herman said:
The trick is getting a coach who not only understands the numbers/reasons, but who also knows how to apply that info into actionable tactics.
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I think you might be missing Blashill's point a little bit.

The idea is to coach to put the players in better shooting positions, and more often, in order to get the scoring chances, rather than just simply shooting the puck more.
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I interpreted what you just said here as an elaboration on what I said in the quote. I don't think I was advocating for merely shooting the puck more.

More along the lines of controlled exits/entries (hold and look), even though that goes against the traditional line of risk averse thinking (dump and chase, off the glass and out).
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Agreed...but I'd go even further and say that cycling along the boards is part of wearing down the defense to create space for better shot opportunities.  I think that's part of the "heavier game" that Babcock refers to.
 
Frank E said:
Agreed...but I'd go even further and say that cycling along the boards is part of wearing down the defense to create space for better shot opportunities.  I think that's part of the "heavier game" that Babcock refers to.
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Yeah, extended down low play gives more chances for cross-crease passes, or looks from behind the net, as well as shift changes with the defenders trapped. Even if it doesn't lead to an outright goal, you get higher chances for penalty calls.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
The Rangers currently have 12 (TWELVE) forwards scoring at least .59 points per game on the season. A .59 PPG translates to 48 points in 82 games.
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They're the team that's rolling 4 skill lines, right?
 
It's been 17 days since Edmonton's version of the "Where are the critics of Nonis' off-season moves now?" article hit. Since then they've won in regulation once and are currently on a 5-game losing streak. Wonderful.
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
The Rangers currently have 12 (TWELVE) forwards scoring at least .59 points per game on the season. A .59 PPG translates to 48 points in 82 games.
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They're the team that's rolling 4 skill lines, right?
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Yeah, they've had some minor injuries hit a few forwards here and there, but they've often gone with:

Kreider-Zibanejad-Zuccarello
Vesey-Stepan-Nash
Grabner-Hayes-Miller
Buchnevich-Pirri-Fast
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
The Rangers currently have 12 (TWELVE) forwards scoring at least .59 points per game on the season. A .59 PPG translates to 48 points in 82 games.
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They're the team that's rolling 4 skill lines, right?
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Yeah, they've had some minor injuries hit a few forwards here and there, but they've often gone with:

Kreider-Zibanejad-Zuccarello
Vesey-Stepan-Nash
Grabner-Hayes-Miller
Buchnevich-Pirri-Fast
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Balanced skill, at that (and speed on the bottom!). I hope they succeed with this, because that will go a long way to pushing the Leafs (and the league) in the right direction.

I haven't really watched their games. Are they overly reliant on Lundqvist like Montreal is with Price?
 
herman said:
I haven't really watched their games. Are they overly reliant on Lundqvist like Montreal is with Price?
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Well, his save percentage is only .920. Which is good, but I mean it's not Price-good (it's 10th among starters).

One thing to keep in mind and watch as the season goes on is that New York's PDO is currently almost 106 and their team is shooting over 13% at even-strength. Last year the Rangers led the league in shooting percentage at 9.01%. So they're on a tear now but that'll obviously slow down (I don't actually expect them to finish the season with 12 forwards scoring at a .59 PPG rate).
 
Nifty little shootout move by Barkov last night against the Rangers:

https://twitter.com/Cats0ntheprowl/status/800535306839560192
www.twitter.com/Cats0ntheprowl/status/800535306839560192
 
In response to that USAToday article last week:
https://hockeypdocast.com/2016/11/21/on-the-notion-that-players-are-gaming-the-system/
 
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