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2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

This might be trolling or it might be the sheer self-loathing Leafs fans have been conditioned to feel, but I saw one of the worst trade proposals in a long time on twitter this morning from a guy with thousands of followers.

Bozak, JVR, Kapanen and a 1st for RNH

Is it just me or is that absolutely preposterous?

I don't know that I'd do Kapanen and a 1st alone.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
This might be trolling or it might be the sheer self-loathing Leafs fans have been conditioned to feel, but I saw one of the worst trade proposals in a long time on twitter this morning from a guy with thousands of followers.

Bozak, JVR, Kapanen and a 1st for RNH

Is it just me or is that absolutely preposterous?

I don't know that I'd do Kapanen and a 1st alone.
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Steve Simmons has thousands of followers??!
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
This might be trolling or it might be the sheer self-loathing Leafs fans have been conditioned to feel, but I saw one of the worst trade proposals in a long time on twitter this morning from a guy with thousands of followers.

Bozak, JVR, Kapanen and a 1st for RNH

Is it just me or is that absolutely preposterous?

I don't know that I'd do Kapanen and a 1st alone.
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That's a massive overpayment. Like, ridiculously so. Who in their right mind is going to give up that for a 2nd line C?
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
That was exactly my response too and then I started second guessing myself, so I wanted to get the TMLfans take.
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I'd say you were spot on. If Edmonton is really interested in moving RNH (I'm not convinced they are) and are looking for depth on the wing (something they should be doing), then maybe something with JvR as the main piece, but no Bozak, and Kapanen unless the Oilers are willing to eat some serious cap on RNH's contract.
 
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/11/06/leafs-notebook-adjustments-needed-2-6-stretch-november-6/

Incoming systems changes...
?The coaching staff, they?re like lawyers. They?re always trying to help you understand and believe their argument. So they?re going to show video. ?You guys like offence? Here?s us making a risky play at the opposing blue line. There?s a turnover. Freeze the frame. Where are you guys?? We?re backchecking. ?Are you playing offence while you?re backchecking?? No. ?Does anybody like backchecking?? Probably not. Versus that same scenario, but you chip it past the opposing D-man with speed. ?Freeze the frame. Where are we?? In the offensive zone. ?What are we doing?? We?re cycling. ?Who prefers backchecking to cycling?? Nobody. When it stares you in the face, it?s hard to deny.?
? Connor Carrick
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Every team is basically 'teched' to defeat/mitigate the top style (Penguins), which is also similar to the one we employ.

There are three ways (so far) to beat the NZ trap:
1) Get lucky and hope someone blows a tire skating backwards

2) Chip and Chase
- I think a diagonal dump in might work best: defense usually sags to the puck side; a diagonal into the corner keeps it in the corner and doesn't let the goaltender engage; the Leafs go swing F1 in with a good head of steam into that corner and flush the puck back up the boards on the opposite side where the dumper & co were already heading as the defense jukes from one side to the other

3) Super Speed
- Nylander and Kapanen do this very frequently. Defenders have to respect both their speed and lateral agility so they back off the line, giving them a bit of space to buttonhook at the line and hit linemates in stride.
 
Frank E said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Kapanen has been returned to the Marlies and the Goat has been recalled.
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Well, I guess if Matthews is out, they'd want a centre.
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Or they just want a more flexible option for the 4th line. Put the Goat on Moore's wing instead of Martin, for example . . .
 
Matthews was absent from practice today because of soreness, which led to these... I guess you can call them "lines":

Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
JVR-Marleau-Hyman
Brown-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Leivo
Gauthier
 
https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/927746817323704320

Hyman: Gotta skate hard. Gotta work hard. Gotta make Babs proud.
Matthews: I got this.
Nylander: tra-la-la-la-la la la la la
 
bustaheims said:
Or they just want a more flexible option for the 4th line. Put the Goat on Moore's wing instead of Martin, for example . . .
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Jesus, if Babcock finally came to the realization that Martin wasn't an every-day NHLer only to replace him with arguably the 4th or 5th best potential replacement in the organization...
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Matthews was absent from practice today because of soreness, which led to these... I guess you can call them "lines":

Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
JVR-Marleau-Hyman
Brown-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Leivo
Gauthier
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I actually like the defensive balance in those lines. I would play that 4th line approximately 32 seconds though. I want a few games where we give up 3 or less and would be willing to give up a few goals for to do it.
 
Anyone else patience running thin with Uncle Leo. I think I resent the embarrassment of us sucking so bad he was considered an all star. I just feel that he has zero finish and don't really notice as much pestering and defensive play of late. Is he still a better fit then some of our available call ups?
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/927746817323704320

Hyman: Gotta skate hard. Gotta work hard. Gotta make Babs proud.
Matthews: I got this.
Nylander: tra-la-la-la-la la la la la
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Looks like bad news... all three caught deep.
 
Bullfrog said:
I like Leo, but he should be in Martin's spot and Martin should be in the pressbox.
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Well I think that's understood that Martin should not be iced. We're all in agreement on that except "the best coach in the world".
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
Or they just want a more flexible option for the 4th line. Put the Goat on Moore's wing instead of Martin, for example . . .
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Jesus, if Babcock finally came to the realization that Martin wasn't an every-day NHLer only to replace him with arguably the 4th or 5th best potential replacement in the organization...
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Come on, admit it, that would be an epic troll job by Babcock.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Matthews was absent from practice today because of soreness, which led to these... I guess you can call them "lines":

Komarov-Kadri-Nylander
JVR-Marleau-Hyman
Brown-Bozak-Marner
Martin-Moore-Leivo
Gauthier
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So, what happened to having Nylander play the top line center position if Matthews was out?  Is it punishment to not give him the shot?
 
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