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2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

disco said:
https://twitter.com/Hamzilla77/status/937478055932477441
This was a neat question, thought I'd share. #1 Center, Power LW, #1 Goalie or All-Star defenseman? I went with the rarest find in today's NHL, and boy would he flourish.

Borje Salming All-Star defenceman.  My fave Leaf.  :)
 
hockeyfan1 said:
disco said:
https://twitter.com/Hamzilla77/status/937478055932477441
This was a neat question, thought I'd share. #1 Center, Power LW, #1 Goalie or All-Star defenseman? I went with the rarest find in today's NHL, and boy would he flourish.

Borje Salming All-Star defenceman.  My fave Leaf.  :)
I will second that, having Salming on this team would definitely be looking at the Cup
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/938090473230565381

This is great nerdy stuff.

When Marleau was signed, I was hoping he'd become the mentor to the stars that this team was missing (Martin can only dad about what he knows) who can still play. Here's a guy who was drafted near the top, played for one team pretty much his whole career, hit up every international tourney along the way, and has in iron man streak to boot. Overpaying him wasn't great, but we are overpaying him with LTIR credit.

I'm hoping he and Nylander get better acquainted too. Of the Big Three, Marleau's hockey tools are most similar to Nylander's.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/938092933408067586
haha saw that too Herman. If he had twins at 18 Patty certainly is old enough to be their father.
 
disco said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/938092933408067586
haha saw that too Herman. If he had twins at 18 Patty certainly is old enough to be their father.

I think they should go over the other TLA's.  Marleau might be thinking that Marner and Matthews are giving him lot's of love.
 
disco said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/938092933408067586
haha saw that too Herman. If he had twins at 18 Patty certainly is old enough to be their father.

https://twitter.com/sunhornby/status/938120822744547328

So I don't have internet at home because my modem died. I might actually have to read a book (on my I-phone).
 
Matthews jokes ?he?s got four kids at home and two on the road?

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Matthews jokes ?he?s got four kids at home and two on the road?

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.
 
Bill_Berg said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Matthews jokes ?he?s got four kids at home and two on the road?

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.

Well duh, thanks BB -- you're right, I got it exactly backwards.
 
Bill_Berg said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Matthews jokes ?he?s got four kids at home and two on the road?

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.


"Howdy, Big Unit?"
 
Zee said:
"Howdy, Big Unit?"

Randy-Johnson-Los-Angeles-Dodgers-v-Arizona-MLQ3d11Z4dyl.jpg

What up, Zee?
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/regressian/status/937828591810756609

This is what I?ve been looking for.

A few comments:

1.  In the replies, Tulloch says only 11 of the Leafs games were tracked so it doesn't cover the entire season so far.
2.  Connor Brown seems to be moving towards "balanced" instead of "dependent"
3.  Morgan Rielly looks really elite offensively.  I went to check how he is league-wide:  He's first!
 
Frank E said:
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)



 
Coco-puffs said:
Frank E said:
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)

Yeah, I knew he had big numbers, I just didn't think they were 4-5 times others' in the cluster.
 
Frank E said:
Coco-puffs said:
Frank E said:
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)

Yeah, I knew he had big numbers, I just didn't think they were 4-5 times others' in the cluster.

The amount of hits he throws is more impressive when you look at some data.  I used corsica to get this information from 2013-2014 until today, all situations, and limited to players playing 2000+ mins, gives 583 players (so just about 18 players per team).  I think that is a good sample of how he does compared to the entire league.

Hits/60 mins: 
1st:  Martin 24.74
2nd:  Reaves 23.08
3rd:  Glass 19.72
...
15th:  Marcus Foligno 12.41  <-  Twice as many hits per 60 as the 15th best hitter in the league over that span.
293rd:  Drew Doughty 3.88    <-  More than SIX times the number of hits per 60 of guys near the league median!!!


Don't get me wrong-  some of the best players in the league are near the bottom of the list of amount of hits or hits/60.  It usually means you don't have the puck.  But man, there are a heck of a lot of guys who don't have the puck much in this league and they aren't making the opposition pay anywhere near as much as Martin is. 

I think people only think of Martin as a fighter too often.  Yes, he can do that.  But he does other things well too and isn't out of place in this league.  Really, his contract is the toughest pill to swallow.  Next is the Leafs have better players sitting out games so he can play every night, but, I'm less concerned about that than most because he's not terrible.
 

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