bustaheims
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Zee said:
I was specifically referencing tonight, but, that's still true.
Also, it's pretty unlikely the Leafs don't pick up at least a single point the rest of the way.
2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
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I was specifically referencing tonight, but, that's still true.
Also, it's pretty unlikely the Leafs don't pick up at least a single point the rest of the way.
If we get to the second round, WSH is a very probable opponent. Let's make sure we beat them in the standings for home ice advantage.
Here's my East projections:
1. BOS
2. TBL
3. TOR
4. WSH
5. PIT
6. PHI
7. CLB
8. NJD
ROUND 1
BOS VS NJD = BOS
TOR VS TBL = TOR
WSH VS CLB = WSH
PIT VS PHI = PIT
ROUND 2
BOS VS PIT
TOR VS WSH
Here's my East projections:
1. BOS
2. TBL
3. TOR
4. WSH
5. PIT
6. PHI
7. CLB
8. NJD
ROUND 1
BOS VS NJD = BOS
TOR VS TBL = TOR
WSH VS CLB = WSH
PIT VS PHI = PIT
ROUND 2
BOS VS PIT
TOR VS WSH
bustaheims
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cabber24 said:
Not how it works. The 1-8 rankings have been gone for a few seasons now. It's now purely divisional + whatever wildcard faces your division winner for the first 2 rounds. Leafs can't face Washington until the 3rd round. Under your scenario, the Leafs would face Boston in the 2nd round.
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so what would happen if say NJD beat Boston and we beat Tampa? Just wondering for knowledge
Boston Leaf said:
We would play New Jersey. Think of it more like how March Madness brackets work.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
That's a good way to look at it. Basically, whichever wildcard plays your team's division winner is part of your division for the playoffs.
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CarltonTheBear said:
ahhh okay thanks
Guilt Trip
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And that's why the NHL needs to adapt the 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, etc. Under the current set up, 2 of the top 6 teams in the entire league will be eliminated after the 2nd round. Not could be, will be and that's not right. The top 2 teams in the conference should not meet until the conf final.
Washington did nothing to earn playing against a potentially weaker opponent. Tampa and Boston have the best records and should be rewarded.
Washington did nothing to earn playing against a potentially weaker opponent. Tampa and Boston have the best records and should be rewarded.
bustaheims
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Guilt Trip said:
That's true every year, with every system the league has used since they had 16 teams in the playoffs. After the 2nd round, there are only 4 teams left.
Hypothetical speaking, this is what the East playoffs would look like this year if we assume the team with more points wins each round:
TB v. NJ
-----------> TB v. BOS
BOS v. TOR
--------------------------> TB v. WSH
WSH v. CBJ
-----------> WSH v. PIT
PIT v. PHI
If they went with a standard 1v8 setup this is what that would look like right now:
TB v. NJ
-----------> TB v. TOR
BOS v. CBJ
--------------------------> TB v. BOS
WSH v. PHI
-----------> BOS v. WSH
TOR v. PIT
I really don't get the outcry, I like the preferred first map with the emphasis on divisional match-ups. BOS/TOR, PIT/PHI, WSH/PIT would all be super fun match-ups and it's not like you're going to get a crappy team from the Metro side in the conference finals with Washington and Pittsburgh kicking around. Who cares if Tampa and Boston have to play each other 1 round earlier? If I'm either of those teams I'd probably prefer getting that match-up over with earlier.
TB v. NJ
-----------> TB v. BOS
BOS v. TOR
--------------------------> TB v. WSH
WSH v. CBJ
-----------> WSH v. PIT
PIT v. PHI
If they went with a standard 1v8 setup this is what that would look like right now:
TB v. NJ
-----------> TB v. TOR
BOS v. CBJ
--------------------------> TB v. BOS
WSH v. PHI
-----------> BOS v. WSH
TOR v. PIT
I really don't get the outcry, I like the preferred first map with the emphasis on divisional match-ups. BOS/TOR, PIT/PHI, WSH/PIT would all be super fun match-ups and it's not like you're going to get a crappy team from the Metro side in the conference finals with Washington and Pittsburgh kicking around. Who cares if Tampa and Boston have to play each other 1 round earlier? If I'm either of those teams I'd probably prefer getting that match-up over with earlier.
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CarltonTheBear said:
I don't get it, either. It's a slight modification of how things were throughout the 80s. It's not perfect, but I don't think such a system really exists.
Guilt Trip
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Doesn't mean it's good. Not perfect is an understatement. Boston/Tampa have the best records so they should get to face the wild card teams. Leafs could end up with more points then Wash, so it could end up that Boston or Tampa will have to face the 3rd seed Leafs, while Wash gets to play against a 7th seed... 4th shouldn't be facing the 7th seed. Put another way. The Leafs will end up 3rd or 4th in the conference. What do they get for being a top 3/4 team? They're rewarded with playing the 1st and 2nd seeds to get to the conference final. Washington if 3rd/4th, will face the 7th and 5th, 6th seeds to get there. Hardly fair. Is what it is tho. Under this system, this year, it's impossible for the 2 best teams to meet in the conference finals.bustaheims said:
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I dunno, seems kinda bush league to me.
Guilt Trip said:
The 2 best teams are whoever meet in the conference finals.
If Tampa and Boston both got eliminated in the 1st round it's not like we'd cancel the playoffs.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is the only correct playoff method.
Guilt Trip
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Oh thanks for that...You know exactly what I mean, from the regular season and the current set up. The system is flawed the way it is.CarltonTheBear said:
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Guilt Trip said:
Teams play their divisional rivals more during the regular season. Montreal, Detroit, Ottawa and Buffalo have less points than anyone in the Metro division, and the Leafs, Lightning and Bruins played these guys more often.
If they had to play ~8 more games against NJ, Carolina, NYR, and NYI instead, they might not be 8 points ahead of 4th place in the Metro...
The system is trying to create more divisional angst during the regular season and more emotional match ups in red 1 of the playoffs by pitting division rivals against each other more often. The price is your good regular season may get you less of an advantage in your playoff opponent than the old pure conference system.
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IJustLurkHere said:
Yeah, that's where I am. If you're just going to do 1-8 for the conference why have divisions? Just balance the schedules and let it go. Of course, as we see in the NBA, even that doesn't satisfy people because why should an Eastern conference team make it over a Western Conference team with more points?
Fact is, you're never going to have a system that pleases everyone but if the major drawback of this system is that a team like Boston that, at best, is very marginally better than the Capitals gets slightly worse seeding then them...whatever.