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Bunch of jerks.L K said:I mean I?m all for offer sheets but this kind of petty nonsense seems kind of silly. Especially coming from the organization that bound itself to D?Angelo.
herman said:It?s a bit like giving a younger, slower Kerfoot 6M.
herman said:https://twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1431752970190925830
CarltonTheBear said:They seem a little too proud about this one.
Maybe they go after him next year? If Montreal accepts they will also have less money next season. Minimum salary is 5.1 then.herman said:And why Kotkaniemi when Nick Suzuki is like right there next season without Weber LTIR (maybe)?
It's actually a good offer because it's very hard to match. As for the one year, I think there's an extension on the table.Peter D. said:I hope Montreal calls Carolina?s bluff and say thanks for the picks and enjoy Kotkaniemi at that price. Stupid offer sheet in my opinion considering it?s only for one year, but really not surprising from what was likely precipitated from an idiot owner.
Zee said:It's a huge overpay for Kotkaniemi for sure, but for only 1 year, and who knows he's 21 maybe he takes a step and the contract doesn't look as bad next summer. If not, they've lost a couple of draft picks so it's like blowing them on a bad rental at the deadline. I'm just happy it screws the Habs.
Agreed and Marc Bergevin's a meathead to boot.bustaheims said:Zee said:It's a huge overpay for Kotkaniemi for sure, but for only 1 year, and who knows he's 21 maybe he takes a step and the contract doesn't look as bad next summer. If not, they've lost a couple of draft picks so it's like blowing them on a bad rental at the deadline. I'm just happy it screws the Habs.
That's basically the dilemma the Habs face - if they let him go and he has a breakout year, the optics are no good - they basically gave away a top 6 C when they have no center depth. If they match and he doesn't take that next step, they blew an opportunity to get good value in what is essentially a trade and they either have to qualify him for a lot more than he's worth or they let him go for nothing, because they can't trade him for 12 months.
They either have to hope he doesn't take a step forward (when likely players with better wingers on a better team) or have a ton of faith that he will take that step. Not a fun position for them, at all.
I'd like to see how the season shakes out if he doesn't do well and how they would arrive at a contract. Let's say he scores 35 points, what happens then? Kotkaniemi has to know this is a show me contract and won't get it again if he doesn't deliver.Zee said:It's a huge overpay for Kotkaniemi for sure, but for only 1 year, and who knows he's 21 maybe he takes a step and the contract doesn't look as bad next summer. If not, they've lost a couple of draft picks so it's like blowing them on a bad rental at the deadline. I'm just happy it screws the Habs.
Their center "depth" is already suspect as it is. Without KK their own first rounder will be higher than Carolina's (it probably would have been already anyway). This team lost Danault already they're in big trouble if they go into the season with Suzuki and friends as their centre options.Peter D. said:I?m viewing this differently ? I think this is a no-brainer for Montreal to not match.
Pay him $6.1 million, lose out on a 1st rounder, and then have to overpay him again or risk losing him for free? Let him walk and allow Carolina to overpay him by nearly double what he is worth. Then take that money and picks and use it as currency elsewhere.
Unless the Habs think he is set to seriously break out. But I don?t think him being a recent 3rd overall pick (a reach as it was) should have any bearing on the decision (although it certainly will).
Zee said:Their center "depth" is already suspect as it is. Without KK their own first rounder will be higher than Carolina's (it probably would have been already anyway). This team lost Danault already they're in big trouble if they go into the season with Suzuki and friends as their centre options.Peter D. said:I?m viewing this differently ? I think this is a no-brainer for Montreal to not match.
Pay him $6.1 million, lose out on a 1st rounder, and then have to overpay him again or risk losing him for free? Let him walk and allow Carolina to overpay him by nearly double what he is worth. Then take that money and picks and use it as currency elsewhere.
Unless the Habs think he is set to seriously break out. But I don?t think him being a recent 3rd overall pick (a reach as it was) should have any bearing on the decision (although it certainly will).
They're already at the cap, short of a trade to free up room there's no center coming for any moneyOldTimeHockey said:Zee said:Their center "depth" is already suspect as it is. Without KK their own first rounder will be higher than Carolina's (it probably would have been already anyway). This team lost Danault already they're in big trouble if they go into the season with Suzuki and friends as their centre options.Peter D. said:I?m viewing this differently ? I think this is a no-brainer for Montreal to not match.
Pay him $6.1 million, lose out on a 1st rounder, and then have to overpay him again or risk losing him for free? Let him walk and allow Carolina to overpay him by nearly double what he is worth. Then take that money and picks and use it as currency elsewhere.
Unless the Habs think he is set to seriously break out. But I don?t think him being a recent 3rd overall pick (a reach as it was) should have any bearing on the decision (although it certainly will).
That is correct, but is there an option for them to get with that money that may produce better C results as well as equal to offensive production? If there is, they need to walk away.