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2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik said:
L K said:
Is anyone excited for the Leafs to be back?  I'm certainly going to be there watching but the piece-meal roster construction in net and in the bottom 6 coupled with teams that on paper look (and generally perform extremely well) but not being able to get it done in the postseason.  I'm really muted on it.  Maybe its just because the regular season is so far away but I'd usually be gearing up to be excited about hockey by now and I'm just not.

It's tough getting excited for the regular season when the Leafs could literally go 82-0 and none of us would feel any better going into round 1 of the playoffs.

Since Matthews arrived I have tried to watch as much as possible (and watched a hell of a lot even before that, when there was no good reason to).  But I have to ask myself, should I really spend hundreds of hours a year on a group of players who can't even win a single playoff round?  I may be a sane, responsible adult and skip a few games this year.

You'll spend that could hundred somewhere regardless. Why not on something you enjoy doing like watching hockey?
 
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I'm like a lot of other fans right now, I'll still watch the regular season but honestly it doesn't get me excited any longer when we've had this history of always choking in the playoffs.  You can't even troll other fanbases after a win, they'll be like "oh yeah, wait until the playoffs loser!"  That 3-1 lead and loss to the Habs really killed my enthusiasm for a while. Lets hope this is the year they break through and make a run.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I watch the games for the entertainment value.  They were mostly a fun team to watch last year, except for the goaltending. 

But I won't believe they're a Cup contender until they get past a 1st round opponent.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

Yes I remember the conversation last year.

I guess I'm in the minority. If I'm at home, and a game is on, I'll turn it on. If the Leafs aren't playing but there's another interesting game, I'll casually watch that too.
I'll also spend Friday nights at a local rink watching kids play hockey. Or, on tournament weekends, the wife and daughter will leave me at the rink to watch other teams.  :-\
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I feel like if you're still posting on this board in the dead of August the "Are you going to follow the team?" question is sort of moot. If quitting following the Leafs was in the cards for me I'd have done it long ago. Being, like, super pumped for it is a different question.
 
Nik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I feel like if you're still posting on this board in the dead of August the "Are you going to follow the team?" question is sort of moot. If quitting following the Leafs was in the cards for me I'd have done it long ago. Being, like, super pumped for it is a different question.

I think I might have been a little more super pumped if the goaltending and bottom-6 were a little less question-marky in terms of improvement...I think I'm hopeful, but not optimistic, because of what has been done to the team this summer. 
 
Maybe I?m super homer dumb but I?m more optimistic about the leafs goaltending situation than I?ve been for years.
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I'm like a lot of other fans right now, I'll still watch the regular season but honestly it doesn't get me excited any longer when we've had this history of always choking in the playoffs.  You can't even troll other fanbases after a win, they'll be like "oh yeah, wait until the playoffs loser!"  That 3-1 lead and loss to the Habs really killed my enthusiasm for a while. Lets hope this is the year they break through and make a run.

Its funny how change works. It happens often after mass capitulation, when the majority of people have given up hope for it. I remember, and this is going waaaay back to the '93 playoffs when Leafs faced the Yzerman led Redwings in round 1. The Leafs finished with 99 points that year, but there was little hope that'd beat Detroit, because the Leafs were perennial playoff losers. Then the Game 7 OT goal by Borschevsky changed the whole narrative. I guess what I'm trying to say is change happens when you least suspect it, and this year is as good as any for something to finally bust open.
 
I get your point, but I don?t think calling them perennial playoff losers is a fair assessment of that era. They were just a bunch of shit teams for almost 15 years at that point.

Getting into the playoffs was a joke back then. I think one year they got in with 50 some points.
 
Joe said:
I get your point, but I don?t think calling them perennial playoff losers is a fair assessment of that era. They were just a bunch of shit teams for almost 15 years at that point.

Getting into the playoffs was a joke back then. I think one year they got in with 50 some points.

Maybe not the right words there, but the sentiment was similar. They were coming out of a decade long drought in the 80's and finally, finally won an important playoff round that really mattered at the time and brought back a lot of fans that had long given up on the club.
 
Frank E said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I feel like we had a lot of "I'm not excited for the regular season/who cares about the regular season/I'm not watching until they win a playoff round" comments last offseason too and then those of us who did follow along got to witness arguably the greatest single season performance by a Leaf ever (and one of the best seasons from a goal scorer in modern history really). So like, that was cool.

I watch the games for the entertainment value.  They were mostly a fun team to watch last year, except for the goaltending. 

But I won't believe they're a Cup contender until they get past a 1st round opponent.

I did some research, and 100% of the teams that have won the cup did so after making it out of the first round.
 
Frank E said:
I think I might have been a little more super pumped if the goaltending and bottom-6 were a little less question-marky in terms of improvement...I think I'm hopeful, but not optimistic, because of what has been done to the team this summer.

Again, I don't think what I'm saying really is any reflection on how good the team is or isn't. Just the impact of what the last 19 years have been. They could have prime Dominik Hasek in net and my thinking would be "Well, hope they can win in the playoffs".
 
You know, I was thinking the other day about Kerfoot...the guy scored 50 points last year for $3.5m, and many seemed resigned to the idea that the Leafs are going to trade him for peanuts just to get cap space.

Who do we think is going to replace those 50 points?
 
Frank E said:
You know, I was thinking the other day about Kerfoot...the guy scored 50 points last year for $3.5m, and many seemed resigned to the idea that the Leafs are going to trade him for peanuts just to get cap space.

Who do we think is going to replace those 50 points?

My dream would be to parlay Kerfoot into whatever and use that cap space on Evan Rodrigues and Sonny Milano.
They are both likely to sign for under 2M and put up 43 + 34 pts respectively.
 
herman said:
Frank E said:
You know, I was thinking the other day about Kerfoot...the guy scored 50 points last year for $3.5m, and many seemed resigned to the idea that the Leafs are going to trade him for peanuts just to get cap space.

Who do we think is going to replace those 50 points?

My dream would be to parlay Kerfoot into whatever and use that cap space on Evan Rodrigues and Sonny Milano.
They are both likely to sign for under 2M and put up 43 + 34 pts respectively.
They need to spread out the offense somehow...

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I?m also ok cheaping out to open the season and give extended auditions to Robertson, Holmberg, Anderson and banking space for the deadline to pick up a scorer. When the NCAA season ends, signing Matt Knies would also mean he?s have to be on the NHL roster.
 
Frank E said:
You know, I was thinking the other day about Kerfoot...the guy scored 50 points last year for $3.5m, and many seemed resigned to the idea that the Leafs are going to trade him for peanuts just to get cap space.

Who do we think is going to replace those 50 points?

He's loved by management, by the coaches but outside of a decent playoff in 2021 and 50 points last year, is he the type of player that TO can progress with? He's a maintenance player, TO can use him to do well during the regular season but really he offers little in the playoffs and not mine nor many's idea of a go to player when that extra gear is necessary. We all expect more from Mitch, Auston, Willie and JT especially when more is needed but I don't think Kerfoot has that extra, like what we saw from Paul of TB during the playoffs. 3.5 mil seems like a bargain for a 50 point player and it is except when that player has little more to offer beyond being in the right place at the right time. This same management and coaches were also very sold on Thornton, spent the better part of his healthy time with the Leafs seeking what he could no longer offer rather than making him earn his role.

TO doesn't need his 50 points but does need players that can and will be productive in the playoffs. Regular season offensive productivity isn't enough anymore for TO.
 
https://twitter.com/nhlnetwork/status/1564236431320461314
;D

These guys know how to get deep-August clicks
 

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