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2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Bill_Berg_is_sad said:
Why did we sign Jarnkrok again? I must be missing something.

I think he's been fine.  Nothing special but fine.  I'm not sure I entirely understand the 4 year commitment at this point but he's solid defensively and ok offensively.  He's on pace to put up put up 15-20 goals which for a guy playing 3rd line minutes is solid.
 
L K said:
Bill_Berg_is_sad said:
Why did we sign Jarnkrok again? I must be missing something.

I think he's been fine.  Nothing special but fine.  I'm not sure I entirely understand the 4 year commitment at this point but he's solid defensively and ok offensively.  He's on pace to put up put up 15-20 goals which for a guy playing 3rd line minutes is solid.

He's been stuck on the 3rd line that Keefe so far hasn't been able to find a solid trio of players for. I wouldn't mind seeing him swap spots with Kerfoot and play with Nylander in the top-6 just to see if that's better fit for him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
Bill_Berg_is_sad said:
Why did we sign Jarnkrok again? I must be missing something.

I think he's been fine.  Nothing special but fine.  I'm not sure I entirely understand the 4 year commitment at this point but he's solid defensively and ok offensively.  He's on pace to put up put up 15-20 goals which for a guy playing 3rd line minutes is solid.

He's been stuck on the 3rd line that Keefe so far hasn't been able to find a solid trio of players for. I wouldn't mind seeing him swap spots with Kerfoot and play with Nylander in the top-6 just to see if that's better fit for him.

Just chiming in that Kerfoot is probably the most underappreciated player on the team.  Need him on Line [FILL IN NUMBER]?  Plug and play.  And he makes things happen, usually in a good way.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
Bill_Berg_is_sad said:
Why did we sign Jarnkrok again? I must be missing something.

I think he's been fine.  Nothing special but fine.  I'm not sure I entirely understand the 4 year commitment at this point but he's solid defensively and ok offensively.  He's on pace to put up put up 15-20 goals which for a guy playing 3rd line minutes is solid.

He's been stuck on the 3rd line that Keefe so far hasn't been able to find a solid trio of players for. I wouldn't mind seeing him swap spots with Kerfoot and play with Nylander in the top-6 just to see if that's better fit for him.

Just chiming in that Kerfoot is probably the most underappreciated player on the team.  Need him on Line [FILL IN NUMBER]?  Plug and play.  And he makes things happen, usually in a good way.

Kerfoot seems to have puck into the center of the goalie crest syndrome to start the year though.  A few really good scoring chances with not so great execution.
 
herman said:
The facts are these:
Holl is trusted for defensive match ups.
Holl needs to be second banana on his pair: he can?t carry
Brodie is our best defensive defenseman

Sans Muzzin, the only real way to maximize Holl (the Leafs are a better team when he is going good), is to play him with Brodie. Everything else stems from that matchup pairing decision.


Nice, small sample, but...
https://twitter.com/nylanderthews/status/1589708394927394816
 
herman said:
herman said:
The facts are these:
Holl is trusted for defensive match ups.
Holl needs to be second banana on his pair: he can?t carry
Brodie is our best defensive defenseman

Sans Muzzin, the only real way to maximize Holl (the Leafs are a better team when he is going good), is to play him with Brodie. Everything else stems from that matchup pairing decision.


Nice, small sample, but...
https://twitter.com/nylanderthews/status/1589708394927394816

Fine.  Brodie can play on the left side.
 
https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1589986218367803393

Samsonov already back on the ice. Hopefully that indicates he won't be out for a long time.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1589986218367803393

Samsonov already back on the ice. Hopefully that indicates he won't be out for a long time.

But I wanna see the American with Italian roots play 1 game at least :(
 
Dryden McKay was called up to the Marlies, so they're not expecting to have Petruzzelli back this weekend at least.

Growlers had to sign a rando to backfill the pipeline.
https://twitter.com/Kyle_Cush/status/1589744649325146114
 
In six games with the Leafs, his 5v5 possession, shots, and scoring chance numbers were all horrible, with teams dominating the Leafs when he was on the ice.

Aube-Kubel was a hitting machine with 20 hits at five-on-five in just 6 games for the Toronto Maple Leafs, but was seldom in a place to receive a hit suggesting he shied away a little in the defensive end.

Likewise, he wasn?t exactly a strong presence when you look at his Corsi percentage, which is a reasonable judge of puck possession ? a lowly 34.74% which means the Leafs were working hard on puck retrieval, explaining the hitting. (statistics from Natural Stat Trick).  A player who hits is helpful, but a player who never has the puck, and so has inflated hitting stats, is not.

https://editorinleaf.com/2022/11/08/toronto-maple-leafs-aube-kubel-2/

Who has played better this year than expected, Kerfoot, contract year syndrome, he has been far more involved/noticeable, good for him and the Leafs, he's actually playing up to his contract but like all the players, can he bring it into the playoffs, if not bye,bye.

I'd be interested to see how well Engvall could do in the top 6, he had a brutal start but he's back, in the bottom 6 he's the only puck possession/mover TO has. Kampf constantly received praise, last year, I often wondered for what? Kampf's game is/was defend, he was/is brutal with the puck which means he is constantly defending unless he's playing with someone that can move the puck, his stats with Engvall were far superior last year, his effectiveness this year to start wasn't praiseworthy. Both Engvall and Kampf had difficult starts to the year so maybe they are dependent on each other, doubtful, fancy stats supports that whoever played with Engvall last year had better results, that wasn't as positive for Kampf. I feel that Engvall is a rock in a hard place, absolutely necessary in the bottom 6 as a puck mover, an actually talented player that might have a lot more to offer when paired with other talented players but is basically irreplaceable in the bottom 6. I even saw him get physical last game during one shift, surprising.

Robertson is an interesting/frustrating type of player, he's energetic which is good but his energy is often misspent. He's turning into a lesser Matthews, wants the puck on the periphery so he can use his great shot, rarely do we see him in front of the opposition's net and he doesn't have the type of talent to hide in plain sight so his ability to use his shot is compromised. It would be great if he could develop more of a Bunting game to compliment his other aptitudes.

I noticed that Matthews is becoming acquainted with the opposition's goalies, his scoring stats are going up coincidently, go figure? I like(love) that Matthews is becoming more defensively conscious, more physical but for my money I want him scoring, controlling play, if these new found attributes actually contribute to his ability to do what he's paid to do then fine, great. If on the other hand these new improvements lend to the excuses as to why he doesn't go into the perilous places on the ice then I prefer he not do them, improve on his ability to score especially during the playoffs is what I'm looking for.

Marner seemed to come out of his slumber the last game, I would say he hasn't been doing anything to improve but he's probably a 100 point player during a healthy year, so what could possibly be wrong? A great deal of that 100 point potential is tied to other players doing the grunt work like going to the front of the opposition's net or even taking shots from the slot. We need Marner to develop a playoff mentality, toughen up, go to the net and maybe even defend with purpose when playing 5v5. So why did Marner play better the last game, he wasn't playing with Matthews on the 1st line? JT with Marner is probably a 40 goal or more scorer. That would be good for TO, JT is a grunt player and Marner has shown a career's need to thrive when the going gets easier and others grunt.

Nylander scored well last year but I liked his game from 2 years ago when we'd often see him around the opposition's net, even then he's desire to go to their net dipped significantly during the playoffs, not something that was likeable.

Get rid of Rielly, $7.5 mil for 8 years for him is insane, that contract seems very Phanny/Kessel, giving him too much because TO hasn't anything better, at this time. I give it 3 years then there will be a collective lament, mine's been going on for years. I'd say Giordano is better than Rielly, I wouldn't be surprised if Giordano could still put up near Rielly numbers while also defending, novel idea, a defensively competent d-man that can contribute offensively, physically, something we've never seen from Rielly. 

Anyway, it's nice to see TO winning, again, now we just need to see TO dominating or at least deserving to win which will be hard to do with the players TO added this summer. 


   

 
 
If Liljegren lands as Rielly's full time partner successfully*, this solves a plethora of problems with the rest of the pairings, namely how to make the most of Holl's defense, Rielly's offense, and keep Giordano's minutes sustainable.

* I have high hopes for Liljegren, but playing alongside Rielly is not easy
 
Hard to look at the Atlantic where most team are above .500 and not think: Were in the toughest division in the league.
 
Lily on the 1st PP might be something that should be tried, his 2 goals against Vegas from a distance would be an extra ingredient making the PP even stronger instead of the 10th best PP it is now. Sandin/Rielly are like the same types of PP d-men, both don't have a decent shot.

I also liked Mitch directing the PP from deep in the opposition's zone, below the goal line, so the defenders have to look back.
 

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