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2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Ozzie said:
I agree with your statement. I would be very surprised if Leafs can with 2 or 3 of the games against Florida and I would also be surprised if they can get through the first round.

Stolarz and Tanev are influential enough to steal a game or two, maybe that can make the difference.
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If they get the defense healthy and can somehow return to playing like they did at the start of the season, they could win a round or two. Maybe even more if the stars finally come through (not likely especially with whatever is going on with Matthews). But an injury to one of the top 5 dmen (especially Tanev, or McCabe) will spell the end, unless the goalies stand on their heads.

This game against Florida should tell us a lot. Florida has the Tkachuk injury plus they are down a defenseman - no excuses even if Tanev is still out. Show up on time, play smart for 60 minutes, try looking like a contender instead of a pretender.
 
herman said:
Carolina and Toronto engaged in a conversation around trading Rantanen. Carolina's initial ask was Marner for Rantenan.
Leafs wanted Rantanen long term and were ready to go up to 12-13M x 8.

Leafs asked Marner if he'd waive his NMC for Carolina and he said no, so Leafs pivoted to offering Minten, Cowan, 2026 1st and 2027 1st. Carolina said, no thanks (not wanting to trade in conference either).
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1899890143126839742
The thing I missed in the summary was Carolina asking for a Knies package (smart choice) and the Leafs counter offering some magic beans instead.
 
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Robertson - Tavares - Marner
McMann - Laughton - Jarnkrok
Lorentz - Kampf - Holmberg

Domi is an awkward fit on this team. I hope he’s moved this off-season.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1899890143126839742
The thing I missed in the summary was Carolina asking for a Knies package (smart choice) and the Leafs counter offering some magic beans instead.
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The magic beans apparently being Cowan, Minten and two 1sts and some say plus someone else.

If Carolina had taken that deal and the Leafs signed Rantanen, where is the cap space to re-sign Marner? and where are the assets to get Laughton & Carlo? Come July 1st, that deal would effectively be Rantanen for Marner, Cowan, Minten and two 1sts and some say plus someone else.

If Marner heard about that, you can understand why he might be a little rattled.

I think the Leafs were lucky the Canes didn't take that deal.
 
cw said:
The magic beans apparently being Cowan, Minten and two 1sts and some say plus someone else.

If Carolina had taken that deal and the Leafs signed Rantanen, where is the cap space to re-sign Marner? and where are the assets to get Laughton & Carlo? Come July 1st, that deal would effectively be Rantanen for Marner, Cowan, Minten and two 1sts and some say plus someone else.

If Marner heard about that, you can understand why he might be a little rattled.

I think the Leafs were lucky the Canes didn't take that deal.
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Could have had Rantanen and Marner re-sign but it would have meant Tavares would need to take something like 8-years/$3m. Lose Jarnkrok, Reaves, Kampf in the offseason. They could have fit something under the cap but be even more top heavy.
 
dappleganger said:
Could have had Rantanen and Marner re-sign but it would have meant Tavares would need to take something like 8-years/$3m. Lose Jarnkrok, Reaves, Kampf in the offseason. They could have fit something under the cap but be even more top heavy.
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You can't get rid of Kampf's contract - too much signing bonus money - 2nd/3rd round pick? to eat it
You also wouldn't have Laughton & Carlo and would have no cap space and little in assets to replace them.
 
dappleganger said:
Would have to send out Domi or Woll as well to get the numbers to work. But it's possible:

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That seems like a pipe dream
Knies @ $4M x 2 yrs? He's looking like he'll crack 30 goals
Marner @ $12.5M Top UFA this year in a year where the cap jumps? Really doubt it
Boston is going to give the Leafs a 7th rounder to take Reaves? why would they do that?
Ditto for Seattle with Jarnkrok

What assets did you trade to get Carlo? They were used to get Rantanen Why would Boston give him away for nothing?
Ditto for the 1st rounder for Laughton
Don't know about the Woll deal either.

That is not that close to reality.
 
cw said:
That seems like a pipe dream
Knies @ $4M x 2 yrs? He's looking like he'll crack 30 goals
Marner @ $12.5M Top UFA this year in a year where the cap jumps? Really doubt it
Boston is going to give the Leafs a 7th rounder to take Reaves? why would they do that?
Ditto for Seattle with Jarnkrok

What assets did you trade to get Carlo? They were used to get Rantanen Why would Boston give him away for nothing?
Ditto for the 1st rounder for Laughton
Don't know about the Woll deal either.

That is not that close to reality.
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None of it is close to reality.
 
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