Guilt Trip
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Florida blows a 3rd period lead. Leafs have 2 games in hand. All is not lost and other good teams blow leads.
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Marner has played ~1300 more minutes in this time span and scored 10 fewer GWGs. Again my contention isn’t that Marner isn’t good, it’s that he’s not the type of player on which I’d want to be spending the money he’s asking for. Great scorers don’t need high dollar playmaking. And if the Leafs roster actually did what Berube has been asking, they don’t even need to be elite shooters because we’d be forcing OZ turnovers and getting counter rush chances more regularly and just cramming pucks in around goalies. Beautiful Marner style hockey has done jack squat in the playoffs. The series we did win was with ugly goals from point shot tips and Vasy laying eggs.Nylander scores about one more GWG per season (46) than Marner (36) since '16-17. That's all. But Marner sets up a lot more than 1 GWG per year - a bunch more than Nylander.
These are all smaller players but the thing that makes them successful is that they play inside contact.No you don't. I happened to pick two from long ago to show how long guys like that have been around on Cup winners
Yanni Gourde won two Cups with Tampa
Martin St. Louis won a Cup with Tampa
Doug Jarvis, four Cups with the Habs
Brian Gionta won Cup with the Devils
Theo Fleury won a Cup with Calgary
Jonathan Marchessault won a Cup and the Conn Smythe with Vegas
Doug Gilmour won a Cup with Calgary
Brad Marchand won a Cup with the Bruins
I'm sure there are more.
I feel very triggered. Probably won't sleep tonight.Totally agree on this. Marner is one of the best to ever play in Toronto. Yet the team needs proper architecture at a capped cost. And this building doesn't have the strength to rise past a certain height based on how it's main pillars are constructed.
A player like Bennett provides a pillar the Leafs construction needs. Or even sprinkled across multiple players.... like at the Knies and Tanev level.
I guess you feel trolled? That's funny bud.![]()
In those 1300 more minutes, Marner played 850 more minutes shorthanded 1:31 per game vs Nylander's 12 seconds/game. Nylander could sit on the bench resting up for his next shift while Marner expended more energy to kill penalties and defend.Marner has played ~1300 more minutes in this time span and scored 10 fewer GWGs.
Beautiful Marner style hockey has done jack squat in the playoffs. The series we did win was with ugly goals from point shot tips and Vasy laying eggs.
Not necessarily. They said we want someone willing to sign a deal.Like Struddy said on Overdrive. By asking 16 to waive, which is what they did regardless of how it was presented, the Leafs basically told Marner we think Rants is better then you. Anyway lots of hockey to go before that scenario so enjoy the ride to the playoffs.