2024 Offseason Thread: Changes

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641
Mouthpiece

I'm not paying anywhere near what he's asking for a goal scorer who doesn't really score.

 

[Joe S.]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641
Mouthpiece

Hes not worth over 5M. Would rather the Leafs give Stamkos 4+ if he'd go for it.

If Stamkos was going to take a 50% pay cut, don?t you?d think TB would have been all over that?

 

[cw]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641

For the money he was paid, I found Bertuzzi disappointing

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1807582818274312212

This has big "you can't fire me, I quit" energy.

 

[Joe S.]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641

For the money he was paid, I found Bertuzzi disappointing

Nothing about Bertuzzi entices me. I?m not big on Domi either, but I came around on him a bit when I saw that he had higher end passing skills. He?s still a mess defensively.

But bertuzzi is what exactly? He?s not fast, he doesn?t skate well, he isn?t defensively sound, he?s not really that rugged or tough (although he seems to have that reputation) and his goal scoring didn?t really come that easily either.

 

[Bullfrog]

I'd take Bertuzzi over Domi in a heartbeat as a player, but not for over $5M. That's just too much for what he brings.

 

[Bender]

I'd take Bertuzzi over Domi in a heartbeat as a player, but not for over $5M. That's just too much for what he brings.

I really don't see much of a difference between the two. At least Domi can stand in reasonably for Marner and get Matthews some goals.

 

[cw]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641

For the money he was paid, I found Bertuzzi disappointing

Nothing about Bertuzzi entices me. I?m not big on Domi either, but I came around on him a bit when I saw that he had higher end passing skills. He?s still a mess defensively.

But bertuzzi is what exactly? He?s not fast, he doesn?t skate well, he isn?t defensively sound, he?s not really that rugged or tough (although he seems to have that reputation) and his goal scoring didn?t really come that easily either.

He had one 30 goal, 32 assist season.
He had one good playoff round with Boston.

His other playoff round was last April with the Leafs
Three of his other seasons were 21 goals, 40+ pts.
The other seasons were much less.

If Bobby McMann got Bertuzzi's ice time last season, he'd handily outscore Bertuzzi.
Robertson would probably score more goals than Bertuzzi with Bertuzzi's ice time.

I think there are much better ways to spend $5.5 mil than on a season of Bertuzzi.

All you have to find is a .5ppg winger who plays both ways and you probably have a better player at 60% of the price.

 

[cabber24]

I liked big Bert, he will be missed. The simplicity to his game was appreciated. The PP was humming with him on it and whatever line he was on was always decent regardless of his points.

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641
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Hes not worth over 5M. Would rather the Leafs give Stamkos 4+ if he'd go for it.

If Stamkos was going to take a 50% pay cut, don?t you?d think TB would have been all over that?

TBay offered him 3M.

 

[Joe S.]

https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1807590254427111641
Mouthpiece

Hes not worth over 5M. Would rather the Leafs give Stamkos 4+ if he'd go for it.

If Stamkos was going to take a 50% pay cut, don?t you?d think TB would have been all over that?

TBay offered him 3M.

Really? I had no idea. Dude still had 41 goals last season. 81 points. I?d give stamkos 5 mil before over bertuzzi any day of the week.

 

[bustaheims]

TBay offered him 3M.

On an 8 year deal, though. At least, that was the rumour. None of this info is confirmed, nor can it be, really.

The idea was to give him the money he deserves, just spread out over a longer period to keep the cap hit down. And Stamkos clearly wasn?t that open to it, or he wouldn?t be hitting the market.

 

[herman]

TBay offered him 3M.

On an 8 year deal, though. At least, that was the rumour. None of this info is confirmed, nor can it be, really.

The idea was to give him the money he deserves, just spread out over a longer period to keep the cap hit down. And Stamkos clearly wasn?t that open to it, or he wouldn?t be hitting the market.

JBB: we think you are worth this!

Stamkos: I am worth Nick Paul?

 

[dappleganger]

It's a hard choice, but TB pivoting from an aging Stamkos to a younger Guentzal is most likely a good move.

 

[herman]

https://x.com/arpan_on_bc/status/1807766129332416712
Oh well

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/arpan_on_bc/status/1807766129332416712
Oh well

Please god no.

 

[Redleaf]

The Leafs are going to lose out on Tanev if they can?t reach an agreement in a couple of hours. 

 

[dappleganger]

The Leafs are going to lose out on Tanev if they can?t reach an agreement in a couple of hours. 

I've seen a few reports that a deal with Tanev was going to get done at $5m per. I guess we'll find out soon.

Edit: Elliotte Friedman has put in print "Chris Tanev: Toronto (around six years at $4.5M AAV)."

 

[dappleganger]

3 years of OEL at $4m seems a little insane to me.

Anyone have a JFresh hockey card?

Doesn't seem in the Treliving mold either.

Leafs should be focusing on the best PK'ers imo.

 

[herman]

I think OEL is a fine D-man with puck moving skills and size/mobility, but he?s kind of just a very luxurious 3LD at $3+M

Rielly - Tanev
Ekman-Larsson - Liljegren
Benoit - McCabe
Timmins, Lyubushkin (probably)
is better than usual but not optimal