2025 Blue Jays
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L K
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If the numbers are true, it's not a good contract...BUT...its on the organization for not getting him to sign a deal earlier. It's on the organization for not having a plan B for if/when Bo/Vlad leave. The farm system is depleted because Atkins/Shapiro didn't draft well enough. The team is flawed as it is. They go into the offseason next year and replace Vlad Jr with what? They go into the offseason next year and replace Bo with what? There are some really solid free agent pitchers next year but the hitters are not all that great.
The team is pretty much forced to rebuild at this point if they aren't going all in with Bo/Vlad and I don't see this front office doing that.
The team is pretty much forced to rebuild at this point if they aren't going all in with Bo/Vlad and I don't see this front office doing that.
OldTimeHockey
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There's always an alternative. Trade him for assets would be my move.
The jays have never turned one of their star players around and came out better for it. Not this management team and none going all the way back to gord ash. So forgive me if I’m not excited at how these guys would handle a trade.
Andy007
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At the same time, alot of those scenarios were re-building, long-term retooling situations with significantly higher budget restraints. With the Jays now having a top-5 payroll in all of baseball, I imagine the idea would be to accrue assets and then spend generously on the FA and trade markets.
And just an update for those who bash the current regime's trading record: Gabriel Moreno is 25yo and coming off of a 2.6WAR season. He (and one season of Gurriel) were traded for Daulton Varsho, 28yo, who had a 5WAR last year (higher WAR than Vladdy's 162 game average, btw). Kirk, the catcher the Jays chose to kept and allowed them to deal Moreno, is 26yo and had a 2WAR last year (in a down season for him). That's just the first trade I hear people trash, and I feel like it's completely overblown.
Teoscar was a miscalculation but he was an impending free agent and the idea was that Vladdy wouldn't turn into a 2WAR player and that him, Bo, Varsho and Belt would provide enough HR to compensate for Teo's exit. They wanted a potentially elite reliever in Swanson (1.7WAR previous season) who was under team control for multiple years, and got an above average, young prospect as well. Not a great trade by any stretch, but it was literally for 1 year of Hernandez, who went to Seattle and hit .740 OPS and 2WAR. Trades have not been the issue (and there are issues) with this regime.
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