Aulie to TBay for Carter Ashton

[lc9]

I guess the thread police is out today.

 

[Deebo]

I guess the thread police is out today.

Just trying to keep things on topic.

There was more than just your post removed.

 

[lc9]

I guess the thread police is out today.

Just trying to keep things on topic.

There was more than just your post removed.

Yeah I see that now, looks like quite a few.  Fair enough.

 

[proteus2000]

Well, Aulie will have a solid shot at making the TB defense squad to stick, I imagine he would rather make nhl money in TB than mainly play on the Marlies. Good luck to him. I haven't seen Ashton but I guess it's another guy that may give some truculence on the 3rd/4th lines in the future.

 

[Jalili]

Great deal, wouldnt have expected TB to cough up Ashton for Aulie.

 

[Oracle]

I wonder if Burke pursued Ashton or TB wanted Aulie.

 

[Jalili]

Well, Aulie will have a solid shot at making the TB defense squad to stick, I imagine he would rather make nhl money in TB than mainly play on the Marlies. Good luck to him. I haven't seen Ashton but I guess it's another guy that may give some truculence on the 3rd/4th lines in the future.

Ashton has more upside than that.

 

[Corn Flake]

Well, Aulie will have a solid shot at making the TB defense squad to stick, I imagine he would rather make nhl money in TB than mainly play on the Marlies. Good luck to him. I haven't seen Ashton but I guess it's another guy that may give some truculence on the 3rd/4th lines in the future.

Aulie will stick because TB's defense is atrocious and their better d-men are injured.  He's probably a #4 for sure.

And as said, Ashton has much higher upside than that.

 

[Jeremiad]

So.... Can Ashton play net?

Yeah, I don't mind the Ashton/Aulie deal, but I was hoping to see Gustavsson swapped out for a real goalie.

The price was too high and the options too limited for the Leafs to make a move for a goaltender.

 

[Bonsixx]

So.... Can Ashton play net?

Yeah, I don't mind the Ashton/Aulie deal, but I was hoping to see Gustavsson swapped out for a real goalie.

The price was too high and the options too limited for the Leafs to make a move for a goaltender.

Probably, although I would have even been happy with Bishop for a second-rounder, but I won't bother getting into that in this thread.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Tony Ambrogio ‏ @SNTonyAmbrogio
Leafs Dir. of player Personnel Rick Dudley says play of defencemen Korbinian Holzer and Jesse Blacker allowed them to deal Aulie. #sntrade

God I hope so. I liked Aulie.

I've heard non-Leafs management/coaches speak very well of Holzer.

Yup, me to. Most people say he's ready now.

 

[Highlander]

Great trade, Ashton has huge upside and Aulie was not flourishing with the team. They have plenty of D-Man prospects

 

[Bender]

Tony Ambrogio ‏ @SNTonyAmbrogio
Leafs Dir. of player Personnel Rick Dudley says play of defencemen Korbinian Holzer and Jesse Blacker allowed them to deal Aulie. #sntrade

God I hope so. I liked Aulie.

I've heard non-Leafs management/coaches speak very well of Holzer.

I don't have a huge problem with this deal but I'll say again: our defense is our weakest link, and Aulie looked pretty good in his callups.  So they'd better be right on Holzer and Blacker.

I don't know what games you've been watching but he was one of the worst defensemen in training camp this year and has been average at best, terrible at worst for the Marlies this year. Looking at the stats that PPP posted some time ago actually proved that Aulie dragged down Phaneuf to some extent when paired with him.

We've got Blacker, Holzer in the A and Percy in the O. He was very far down on the depth chart. Ashton on the other hand was rated as TB's top prospect in the Hockey News in November (or whatever it was).

You can criticize the deal all you want, but according to pretty much EVERYBODY involved, this was a good deal for both teams with the Leafs getting the prospect that has better upside. Nevermind the fact that this move addresses organizational need.

 

[Bender]

So.... Can Ashton play net?

Yeah, I don't mind the Ashton/Aulie deal, but I was hoping to see Gustavsson swapped out for a real goalie.

The price was too high and the options too limited for the Leafs to make a move for a goaltender.

Probably, although I would have even been happy with Bishop for a second-rounder, but I won't bother getting into that in this thread.

To put that into perspective though, Bishop is 25. He's not exactly a fresh face, although goaltenders do take longer to develop. He's having a breakout season in the A, but we've got a guy in Owuya who's putting up similar numbers who's 3 years younger. As it stands I think Bishop is overhyped.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Carter Ashton also played for the 2011 World Junior team that won silver in Buffalo.

 

[ZBBM]

Tony Ambrogio ‏ @SNTonyAmbrogio
Leafs Dir. of player Personnel Rick Dudley says play of defencemen Korbinian Holzer and Jesse Blacker allowed them to deal Aulie. #sntrade

God I hope so. I liked Aulie.

I've heard non-Leafs management/coaches speak very well of Holzer.

I don't have a huge problem with this deal but I'll say again: our defense is our weakest link, and Aulie looked pretty good in his callups.  So they'd better be right on Holzer and Blacker.

I don't know what games you've been watching but he was one of the worst defensemen in training camp this year and has been average at best, terrible at worst for the Marlies this year. Looking at the stats that PPP posted some time ago actually proved that Aulie dragged down Phaneuf to some extent when paired with him.

We've got Blacker, Holzer in the A and Percy in the O. He was very far down on the depth chart. Ashton on the other hand was rated as TB's top prospect in the Hockey News in November (or whatever it was).

You can criticize the deal all you want, but according to pretty much EVERYBODY involved, this was a good deal for both teams with the Leafs getting the prospect that has better upside. Nevermind the fact that this move addresses organizational need.

Organizational need?  The need of the organization I've been watching is for a defenseman who can actually play defense. Aulie is a big guy who has the tools and size to play the kind of game we need on the back end.

Maybe Holzer can too and maybe Blacker can. I'm just saying bb better be right on this.

 

[Tigger]

Maybe Holzer can too and maybe Blacker can. I'm just saying bb better be right on this.

Eakins too...

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Maybe Holzer can too and maybe Blacker can. I'm just saying bb better be right on this.

Eakins too...

Here's a decent synopsis of the trade today.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Maybe Holzer can too and maybe Blacker can. I'm just saying bb better be right on this.

Eakins too...

Here's a decent synopsis of the trade today.

Guy Boucher said of Ashton following a preseason game in September:

?Carter Ashton was one of our guys doing a great job in front of the net. He?s a very, very hardworking kid with an amazing attitude, I really enjoyed him. Everything we wanted to teach he wanted to do, and he wanted to do more, and I thought he did very good in the games.. a big boy too that can skate, not a lot of those guys around, they?re rare. He?s a real power forward. We use that word very often with guys that don?t really deserve that name but in this case he?s the real deal and he?s going to be a good player.?

I do like the sounds of that.

 

[Tigger]

Dudley likes him eventually on the 2nd or 3rd line, that's ok with me.