Contracts for the Big-3

[CarltonTheBear]

From Friedman's 30 Thoughts:

12. Last Saturday on Headlines, Chris Johnston reported Toronto?s belief that William Nylander would be interested in a six-year deal at around $6.9 million per season. My best intel says that is not (yet) on the table, but it doesn?t mean it won?t be by 5:00 pm ET Dec. 1, when this phase of the dispute mercifully comes to its end.

I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart. The problem is that both Toronto and Nylander think they?ve significantly moved off their original positions, so they get to a point where they don?t want to go further and dig in again. That might not sound like a lot, but Edmonton fans will remember Ryan Smyth was traded in 2007 when talks collapsed with both sides $100,000 apart.

Getting closer.

 

[princedpw]

From Friedman's 30 Thoughts:

12. Last Saturday on Headlines, Chris Johnston reported Toronto?s belief that William Nylander would be interested in a six-year deal at around $6.9 million per season. My best intel says that is not (yet) on the table, but it doesn?t mean it won?t be by 5:00 pm ET Dec. 1, when this phase of the dispute mercifully comes to its end.

I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart. The problem is that both Toronto and Nylander think they?ve significantly moved off their original positions, so they get to a point where they don?t want to go further and dig in again. That might not sound like a lot, but Edmonton fans will remember Ryan Smyth was traded in 2007 when talks collapsed with both sides $100,000 apart.

Getting closer.

"I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart" -- why does he think that?  I'm honestly just wondering.  Has he talked to representatives from one or both sides?  I haven't heard of any direct leaks.  Why would one or both sides leak specific numbers like this directly?  Is such a statement really credible?  He doesn't allude to the fact that comes from any source.

 

[Zee]

From Friedman's 30 Thoughts:

12. Last Saturday on Headlines, Chris Johnston reported Toronto?s belief that William Nylander would be interested in a six-year deal at around $6.9 million per season. My best intel says that is not (yet) on the table, but it doesn?t mean it won?t be by 5:00 pm ET Dec. 1, when this phase of the dispute mercifully comes to its end.

I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart. The problem is that both Toronto and Nylander think they?ve significantly moved off their original positions, so they get to a point where they don?t want to go further and dig in again. That might not sound like a lot, but Edmonton fans will remember Ryan Smyth was traded in 2007 when talks collapsed with both sides $100,000 apart.

Getting closer.

"I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart" -- why does he think that?  I'm honestly just wondering.  Has he talked to representatives from one or both sides?  I haven't heard of any direct leaks.  Why would one or both sides leak specific numbers like this directly?  Is such a statement really credible?  He doesn't allude to the fact that comes from any source.

I'm wondering that myself.  Why would Friedman have such finely defined numbers now whereas other reports can't confirm anything (McKenzie, Kyper, Dreger et all)

 

[Kin]

"I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart" -- why does he think that?  I'm honestly just wondering.  Has he talked to representatives from one or both sides?  I haven't heard of any direct leaks.  Why would one or both sides leak specific numbers like this directly?  Is such a statement really credible?  He doesn't allude to the fact that comes from any source.

I'm not a fan of Friedman's style of reporting but I think he's well-enough sourced that it's fair to assume that he's not just pulling this out of the air. If he had direct confirmation from one of the involved parties I don't think he'd be reporting it as what he thought.

 

[herman]

I can think of what Kadri would like right now.  Perhaps a teammate that doesn't throw him under the bus to the media.

I don't think he threw him under anything. Just pointing out the different styles and that he gets lost sometimes with Nazy's style because he's more unpredictable.

Also dry Finnish humour + the whole team loves chirping Kadri

 

[Guilt Trip]

I can think of what Kadri would like right now.  Perhaps a teammate that doesn't throw him under the bus to the media.

I don't think he threw him under anything. Just pointing out the different styles and that he gets lost sometimes with Nazy's style because he's more unpredictable.

Also dry Finnish humour + the whole team loves chirping Kadri

That's the thing about text only. You don't get to see the facial expressions behind it.

 

[Bender]

"I think the two sides are around $300,000/year apart" -- why does he think that?  I'm honestly just wondering.  Has he talked to representatives from one or both sides?  I haven't heard of any direct leaks.  Why would one or both sides leak specific numbers like this directly?  Is such a statement really credible?  He doesn't allude to the fact that comes from any source.

I'm not a fan of Friedman's style of reporting but I think he's well-enough sourced that it's fair to assume that he's not just pulling this out of the air. If he had direct confirmation from one of the involved parties I don't think he'd be reporting it as what he thought.

Listening to him speak on various podcasts I think he's generally very careful with what he says, and only says it if he feels the source and the news item is legitimate.

 

[sickbeast]

I can think of what Kadri would like right now.  Perhaps a teammate that doesn't throw him under the bus to the media.

I don't think he threw him under anything. Just pointing out the different styles and that he gets lost sometimes with Nazy's style because he's more unpredictable.

Also dry Finnish humour + the whole team loves chirping Kadri

That's the thing about text only. You don't get to see the facial expressions behind it.

I just think Kadri is kind of down and out right now and I think Kapanen should be more careful about what he says.  Say what you will about Kadri but he wears his heart on his sleeve and he's a warrior on the ice.  A Toronto guy also.  I like him.

 

[ZBBM]

I can think of what Kadri would like right now.  Perhaps a teammate that doesn't throw him under the bus to the media.

I don't think he threw him under anything. Just pointing out the different styles and that he gets lost sometimes with Nazy's style because he's more unpredictable.

Also dry Finnish humour + the whole team loves chirping Kadri

That's the thing about text only. You don't get to see the facial expressions behind it.

I just think Kadri is kind of down and out right now and I think Kapanen should be more careful about what he says.  Say what you will about Kadri but he wears his heart on his sleeve and he's a warrior on the ice.  A Toronto guy also.  I like him.

I agree.  I like Kapanen but that sounded like a put-down.

 

[Kin]

Kadri's from London, not Toronto.

 

[AtomicMapleLeaf]

Kadri's from London, not Toronto.

That explains the accent

 

[sickbeast]

Kadri's from London, not Toronto.

Have you ever seen the movie "Fight Club"?

 

[Kin]

I've seen 3 of the 5 best Police Academy movies.

 

[sickbeast]

You should watch Fight Club.

 

[Frank E]

Since we're on the subject of Kapanen, he's due for a deal too. 

If he can put together a 40ish point season, this may complicate things further.

 

[sickbeast]

Since we're on the subject of Kapanen, he's due for a deal too. 

If he can put together a 40ish point season, this may complicate things further.

It will give them trade assets that they can parlay into future draft picks and prospects that will just keep the ball rolling and hopefully give us another window to win the cup.

I'm actually wondering if they should trade Jake Gardiner at the trade deadline for prospects to free up some future cap space so they can keep Kapanen.  I really like him.  And quite honestly after the way Gardiner completely choked last season during the playoffs, I'm wondering if we should go in a different direction.  Maybe trade some of our extra young players/prospects for defense that can replace Gardiner for the playoff run.

I actually think the Leafs are going to completely load up at the deadline this season and really go for it.  After this year Matthews and Marner are due to get paid big time and it's going to complicate the cap situation and IMO make the team less competitive next season and going forward somewhat.  This is the year IMO.  We'll see what happens.

 

[Zee]

Hmm, when Nylander gets back Leafs are on the road for 2. Home fans won't get to see him until a week Thursday

 

[Zee]

Dear William, won't you come out to play?
Dear William, greet the brand new day
The sun is up, the sky is blue
It's beautiful and so are you
Dear William, won't you come out to play?

Dear William, open up your eyes
Dear William, see the sunny skies
The wind is low, the birds will sing
That you are part of everything
Dear William, won't you open up your eyes?

 

[Bender]

Dear William, won't you come out to play?
Dear William, greet the brand new day
The sun is up, the sky is blue
It's beautiful and so are you
Dear William, won't you come out to play?

Dear William, open up your eyes
Dear William, see the sunny skies
The wind is low, the birds will sing
That you are part of everything
Dear William, won't you open up your eyes?

I literally just read a bit on the White Album a minute before I read this [emoji3]

 

[Zee]

Dear William, won't you come out to play?
Dear William, greet the brand new day
The sun is up, the sky is blue
It's beautiful and so are you
Dear William, won't you come out to play?

Dear William, open up your eyes
Dear William, see the sunny skies
The wind is low, the birds will sing
That you are part of everything
Dear William, won't you open up your eyes?

I literally just read a bit on the White Album a minute before I read this [emoji3]

I was listening to it, the 50th anniversary remix, the Nylander stuff fits so well