bustaheims
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Tigger said:
Yeah. If there can't be something similar to the Filatov deal worked out there, it becomes less and less appealing. Maybe a for a lesser prospect like Nicholls or Holzer or something along those lines.
Cox: Turris to the Leafs is a possibility
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Yeah. If there can't be something similar to the Filatov deal worked out there, it becomes less and less appealing. Maybe a for a lesser prospect like Nicholls or Holzer or something along those lines.
McPwnage
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I don't see it as a posibility given Burke would rather let a player go than overpay him. Turris has done absolutly nothing of value in the nhl and he is standing off wanting to be paid? That is arrogant, shows the wrong message and if I know anything about Burke he would lose any interest.
BlueWhiteBlood
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McPwnage said:
He may, but again, we don't know what is going on here with this situation. Remember, Kessel was kind of holding out here as well, then Burke traded for him and the deal was done lickity split. This all points to Turris wanting out of Phoenix IMO. For whatever reason.
BlueWhiteBlood
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McPwnage said:
Sure, but Turris might sign a deal for a million bucks the day he is traded, we don't know what's going on here. Say what you want about his demands right now, but the kid still has a lot of potential. I believe I read somewhere that he doesn't fit in with what Tippet is doing there, so maybe that is enough for him to want out into a better situation, or at least what he perceives to be a better fit for him.
Even though I've followed the Yotes some, I haven't seen him a lot or noticed him much when I did.
Depending on what player shows up: the guy who has played in the NHL to date or the guy that they hoped for when they drafted him, I'm not sure he would be an upgrade to the Leafs top 9.
Tippett likes guys who will play both ways. So does Wilson. That's not his forte right now.
I was wondering if there was a reason as to why they played Colborne three nights in a row. Made me wonder if he was being showcased or more closely examined to see if they could move someone that he would fill in for.
I don't think a day goes by without Burke thinking about a trade ...
I think Turris is basically asking to be moved without saying so directly. I don't think this is all about money. Turris probably wants to get away from Tippett, who is pretty secure as the Coyotes coach, and defensive hockey.
Depending on what player shows up: the guy who has played in the NHL to date or the guy that they hoped for when they drafted him, I'm not sure he would be an upgrade to the Leafs top 9.
Tippett likes guys who will play both ways. So does Wilson. That's not his forte right now.
I was wondering if there was a reason as to why they played Colborne three nights in a row. Made me wonder if he was being showcased or more closely examined to see if they could move someone that he would fill in for.
I don't think a day goes by without Burke thinking about a trade ...
I think Turris is basically asking to be moved without saying so directly. I don't think this is all about money. Turris probably wants to get away from Tippett, who is pretty secure as the Coyotes coach, and defensive hockey.
Corn Flake
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I think the biggest thing with Turris is he is a classic case of a young talent that was rushed to the NHL.
He was drafted out of the BCHL - a league that is a loooong way from NHL caliber. He didn't turn 18 until almost 2 months after draft day. He spent one year at Wisconsin where he probably should have stayed at least one more year, and since has yo-yo'ed season to season between the NHL > AHL and then NHL again the last 3 years. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
I remember him from his draft year.. soooo much talent but so so raw and playing in a leauge where he could pretty much score at will on one foot. He needed a lot of time and patience and the Yotes didn't give it to him. He just turned 22 in August. Still a very young, raw player.
His shortcoming has always been he is shy of physical play. Defensively he was good at Wisconsin and the AHL.. not sure what was expected from Tippett but I think the production issues are more of a product of playing against men.
He was drafted out of the BCHL - a league that is a loooong way from NHL caliber. He didn't turn 18 until almost 2 months after draft day. He spent one year at Wisconsin where he probably should have stayed at least one more year, and since has yo-yo'ed season to season between the NHL > AHL and then NHL again the last 3 years. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
I remember him from his draft year.. soooo much talent but so so raw and playing in a leauge where he could pretty much score at will on one foot. He needed a lot of time and patience and the Yotes didn't give it to him. He just turned 22 in August. Still a very young, raw player.
His shortcoming has always been he is shy of physical play. Defensively he was good at Wisconsin and the AHL.. not sure what was expected from Tippett but I think the production issues are more of a product of playing against men.
BlueWhiteBlood
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9) As mentioned on Hotstove, Don Maloney re-iterated that he will not trade Kyle Turris, saying that if Turris wants to play anywhere in the NHL this year, it will be in Phoenix. After talking to a few people, here's the picture that emerges: Turris wants to be traded. "The feeling is he will sign a reasonable contract with a new team," says another GM. That eliminates an offer sheet (should we actually see one), because Maloney would match. If Turris doesn't sign by Dec. 1, he can't play this year.
12) Who's interested in Turris? Calgary, for sure. The problem is, I don't think the Flames have what Phoenix would need. Not exactly loaded with prospects, does it make sense to trade high picks or a prospect like Mikael Backlund for Turris? (Then again, I'm not even sure the Coyotes would make a Backlund-Turris deal.)
Maybe some missed it on the Hot Stove, but they are pretty sure we were right in the first place and that Turris wants a trade out of Phoenix. One GM asked believes that he would sign a reasonable deal with another team. Wonder if Maloney will succumb and trade the kid somewhere else and what it would take to get him?
12) Who's interested in Turris? Calgary, for sure. The problem is, I don't think the Flames have what Phoenix would need. Not exactly loaded with prospects, does it make sense to trade high picks or a prospect like Mikael Backlund for Turris? (Then again, I'm not even sure the Coyotes would make a Backlund-Turris deal.)
Maybe some missed it on the Hot Stove, but they are pretty sure we were right in the first place and that Turris wants a trade out of Phoenix. One GM asked believes that he would sign a reasonable deal with another team. Wonder if Maloney will succumb and trade the kid somewhere else and what it would take to get him?
bustaheims
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armche123 said:
Whether or not the team is in Phoenix next year has no bearing on whether or not the team will move Turris. Also, if we're looking at faceoffs, I'll take Bozak's career 54.3% efficiency over Turris's 45.3% every day of the week.
Leafaholic99
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Mordac said:
and his defensive play has improved this year, I was all for dumping him in the summer, but so far he has showed signs of improvement over last year.
armche123 said:
Bozak's face-off abilities have already been mentioned, but last season he was at 54%. This season, ignoring the first 5 games of the season where he had wrist issues and just looking at the following 10, he's been at 53%. And in his rookie season he was at 55%. So I'm not sure what the issue is there.
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Tigger said:
Subjectively, I felt Bozak was playing better. But, Tigger, thanks to the numbers you've provided, the difference is quite significant.
Still, though, I think Bozak tops out as a very good thrid line centre. Which is great to have. But, it he is the centrepiece in a deal that adds a potential impact player, I'd be willing to take that gamble.
bustaheims
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DarrenDreger: The Kyle Turris saga is about to end. Turris is and the Coyotes expected to announce a 2 year agreement this week. Trade still prime option.
Busta Reims said:
Wait a sec. So he really wants to be traded, he held out, caused all this stir only to eventually sign a 2 year deal?
I don't think his agent really handled this thing very well. Well, I guess I should hold off on saying that until I see the terms of the deal.
bustaheims
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Erndog said:
Well, depending on the cap hit attached, the extra year on the deal does make Turris a slightly more appealing asset on the trade market, and, it's not like he would have been a UFA at the end of the season on a one year deal. Basically, the 2nd year helps him avoid this ridiculousness next season if things don't get resolved this season.
