Franson, Santorelli to NSH for 1st round pick, Brendan Leipsic, Olli Jokinen

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm warming up to Brendan Leipsic. Being able to score at the AHL level like he has is pretty impressive for a 20-year old. He's 4th in AHL scoring for rookies and is just 1 point behind Connor Brown. That's a good indication of future NHL success. And judging from that article I posted, he's a feisty as hell player too. Basically a Brad Ross who doesn't suck (and doesn't take drugs).

 

[Deebo]

What is a former 3rd round pick that appears to have developed since he was picked 3 years ago worth?

His numbers seem to be similar to Connor Brown, where his production in junior doubled in the year after he was drafted and now is a leading scorer for his team in his first professional year.

Might amount to nothing though, of course.

 

[Madferret]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie  1 minute ago
TOR-NSH trade easy to break down. TOR gets NSH 1st rd for Franson, which is very good price for rental. Santorelli for prospect Leipsic.

So Franson nets a 1st, which many of us felt that he would. Just thought that they might be a little extra on top, but that's alright. Santorelli gets a prospect drafted in the 3rd round but appears to be on the right track to becoming a NHLer, so I could say that translates into a 2nd rounder. Again, I'm very much warming up to the deal.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

Right on cue. Franson netted a 1st rounder in the deal. That's more than fine.

 

[Deebo]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

It was reported as the "asking price".

 

[Redleaf]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

From who's projections?

 

[Deebo]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

Right on cue. Franson netted a 1st rounder in the deal. That's more than fine.

I was told a first for Franson alone was a pipe dream.

 

[ZBBM]

I'm warming up to Brendan Leipsic. Being able to score at the AHL level like he has is pretty impressive for a 20-year old. He's 4th in AHL scoring for rookies and is just 1 point behind Connor Brown. That's a good indication of future NHL success. And judging from that article I posted, he's a feisty as hell player too. Basically a Brad Ross who doesn't suck (and doesn't take drugs).

The question is, as has been said, could we have gotten more for Santo separately? Poile's statement was that they were fortunate to have plugged 2 needs in 1 deal, so to me it seems like they could have tried to charge a premium for that -- meaning, a higher-ranked prospect that Leipsic.

 

[Madferret]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

Right on cue. Franson netted a 1st rounder in the deal. That's more than fine.

Don't forget Olli Jokinen! I guess they'll be putting a dry bar in the clubhouse now

 

[ZBBM]

Who do you think negotiated this -- Nonis or Shanny?

 

[Kin]

The question is, as has been said, could we have gotten more for Santo separately? Poile's statement was that they were fortunate to have plugged 2 needs in 1 deal, so to me it seems like they could have tried to charge a premium for that -- meaning, a higher-ranked prospect that Leipsic.

I'm sure they did try.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Don't forget Olli Jokinen! I guess they'll be putting a dry bar in the clubhouse now

Says somebody who had no idea how a salary-cap team operates.

 

[Madferret]

Isn't that what Franson alone was expected to return ?

Right on cue. Franson netted a 1st rounder in the deal. That's more than fine.

I was told a first for Franson alone was a pipe dream.

Based on that return I would have preferred the pipe dream.

 

[Deebo]

Who do you think negotiated this -- Nonis or Shanny?

Nonis.

 

[Kin]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie  1 minute ago
TOR-NSH trade easy to break down. TOR gets NSH 1st rd for Franson, which is very good price for rental. Santorelli for prospect Leipsic.

So Franson nets a 1st, which many of us felt that he would. Just thought that they might be a little extra on top, but that's alright. Santorelli gets a prospect drafted in the 3rd round but appears to be on the right track to becoming a NHLer, so I could say that translates into a 2nd rounder. Again, I'm very much warming up to the deal.

And look, I'm sure I'm being ridiculous on this one but Jokinen was taking a regular PK shift for Nashville. I don't think it's inconceivable he becomes a trade deadline asset. Not a big one obviously but maybe another 4th or 5th rounder.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The question is, as has been said, could we have gotten more for Santo separately? Poile's statement was that they were fortunate to have plugged 2 needs in 1 deal, so to me it seems like they could have tried to charge a premium for that -- meaning, a higher-ranked prospect that Leipsic.

Maybe, but like I said I think we all had Santo's value at around a 2nd round pick. Leipsic was a 3rd rounder who seems to be developed very well, I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the 2nd round in a re-draft. So we basically got a 2nd rounder just fast-forwarded a little bit.

 

[bustaheims]

Good but not overwhelmingly amazing deal. A 1st is a 1st, obviously, even if it is a late one. Leipsic is an intriguing prospect and Jokinen is a salary dump the Leafs can hopefully move for a late round pick at the deadline. Might have been able to get a touch more for them in individual deals, but, probably not enough to bother waiting.

 

[ZBBM]

The question is, as has been said, could we have gotten more for Santo separately? Poile's statement was that they were fortunate to have plugged 2 needs in 1 deal, so to me it seems like they could have tried to charge a premium for that -- meaning, a higher-ranked prospect that Leipsic.

I'm sure they did try.

Well yeah, but what I'm wondering is why they couldn't have put Franson for a NSH 1st on hold (where else is Polie going to get that need filled?) and shop Santorelli around up closer to the deadline?  Seems to me that he would have fetched a bit more.

I'm not really thumbs down on this, just questioning the strategy a bit.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

And look, I'm sure I'm being ridiculous on this one but Jokinen was taking a regular PK shift for Nashville. I don't think it's inconceivable he becomes a trade deadline asset. Not a big one obviously but maybe another 4th or 5th rounder.

Yeah I mean I have my doubts but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Heck, even if it was a 6th or 7th I'd take it. Somebody showed that the success rate of a 5th rounder is basically the same as 6th or 7th.