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Game 45: Ottawa Senators vs Toronto Maple Leafs 7:00 SNET-O

Sarge said:
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
One positive thing about last night's game was Lombardi. Holy crap, is he fast.

No kidding! Jaw-dropping wheels, indeed.

I think that's the first game we've seen that kind of speed from him though. I haven't been overly impressed with his game, until last night. So hopefully, he keeps that play up.
 
A team can look real good but in the end, you need to put pucks in the net and the Leafs are not doing that and really haven't all year.  Averaging 2 goals per game in last 5 games doesn't cut it.  Goaltending shaky but too much fan confidence in Reimer makes for a disappointing outcome. He has not shown much of anything this season.  More interested in what he is doing for us now, not resting on the laurels of what he he did last 1/2 of last season.  Forget about that run, its long over.

Going to be a long and disapointing run to 8th place but in the end, Leafs will not be there if we don't get 1-2 power forwards.  Getting 3 goals against in each of last 3 games is not devasting,  Leafs just don't have the scoring ability to overcome mental mistakes by the defense and goaltending. No power forwards causing havoc in front of the net.  Not like the run and gun Leafs of old when it didn't matter how many goals against, they just needed one more than the opposing team to win.  Very difficult to watch and stomach.
 
bbt said:
A team can look real good but in the end, you need to put pucks in the net and the Leafs are not doing that and really haven't all year.

I disagree, the Leafs were near the top in the league for most of the season in GF/ game I believe. It's only recently that the goals have dried up.
 
goaltending is not the problem.  thsi team is lacking in size and skill up front.  Too many lost battles against the biggern Sens equates to lost game
 
Sarge said:
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
One positive thing about last night's game was Lombardi. Holy crap, is he fast.

No kidding! Jaw-dropping wheels, indeed.

He could use it more though.  I noticed last night he coasts a fair bit when the Leafs don't have the puck.  If his feet were moving as much when the Leafs didn't have the puck as they are when they did, he would be 2x better.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
bbt said:
A team can look real good but in the end, you need to put pucks in the net and the Leafs are not doing that and really haven't all year.

I disagree, the Leafs were near the top in the league for most of the season in GF/ game I believe. It's only recently that the goals have dried up.

Yeah. You don't sit 6th in the league in goals per game if the puck hasn't been going in all season.
 
bustaheims said:
Yeah. You don't sit 6th in the league in goals per game if the puck hasn't been going in all season.

Yup, this team has for a long time and still has to get their team defense in check, before they are really going to be a real threat.

When the Leafs play a team game and the forwards come back and pressure the the opposing offense, they play way better. We've seen they are more than capable of doing it. They get caught in this mind set that they have to be pushing forward all the time and out-score the opposition, rather than play sound defensively, which will produce more offensive chances.
 
10th in league in scoring 5 on 5.  More important statistic is 22nd place in scoring %, near the bottom of the league!!  Yep, they sure can score.
 
bbt said:
10th in league in scoring 5 on 5.  More important statistic is 22nd place in scoring %, near the bottom of the league!!  Yep, they sure can score.

What is scoring percentage?
 
bbt said:
10th in league in scoring 5 on 5.  More important statistic is 22nd place in scoring %, near the bottom of the league!!  Yep, they sure can score.

Umm, I'm relative certain you're confusing "winning % when scoring 1st" with a stat that doesn't exist.
 
Saint Nik said:
bbt said:
10th in league in scoring 5 on 5.  More important statistic is 22nd place in scoring %, near the bottom of the league!!  Yep, they sure can score.

What is scoring percentage?

And we are tied for last in the league in 3 on 5 goals/game.
 
bustaheims said:
bbt said:
10th in league in scoring 5 on 5.  More important statistic is 22nd place in scoring %, near the bottom of the league!!  Yep, they sure can score.

Umm, I'm relative certain you're confusing "winning % when scoring 1st" with a stat that doesn't exist.

I think what he was referring to was that Sean Avery leads the league in scoring, meanwhile Phaneuf pads his scoring % with sloppy seconds (assists).
 
If I really took a guess as just what bbt means by scoring %, I'd figure he meant shooting percentage, in which case, he's WAY off, as the Leafs are 2nd in the league in that particular category.
 
bustaheims said:
If I really took a guess as just what bbt means by scoring %, I'd figure he meant shooting percentage, in which case, he's WAY off, as the Leafs are 2nd in the league in that particular category.

I mean, that'd have been my guess too but I'm really struggling to figure out how in the world shooting percentage could be more significant to a team's offensive output than their goal total.
 
Saint Nik said:
I mean, that'd have been my guess too but I'm really struggling to figure out how in the world shooting percentage could be more significant to a team's offensive output than their goal total.

Well, yeah, there's that, too. Even if the Leafs didn't have the 2nd best shooting percentage in the league, they're still scoring the 6th most goals per game. At the end of the day, his entire argument is beyond flawed.
 
Yep for those out there that are new to the game, its a real stat.  When I coached it was a stat we looked to see why we might not be scoring as many goals as we should be especially if we outshot teams and still lost.  As an example, if you took 10 shots and scored 10 goals, your scoring % would be 100%.  But what about shots that miss the net by three feet? Those aren't counted in the Shooting Percentage.  Check out the NHL website, this stat is in the summary for all team statistics.  Mmmmm, wonder why teams would want to track that stat?????
 
bbt said:
Yep for those out there that are new to the game, its a real stat.  When I coached it was a stat we looked to see why we might not be scoring as many goals as we should be especially if we outshot teams and still lost.  As an example, if you took 10 shots and scored 10 goals, your scoring % would be 100%.  But what about shots that miss the net by three feet? Those aren't counted in the Shooting Percentage.  Check out the NHL website, this stat is in the summary for all team statistics.  Mmmmm, wonder why teams would want to track that stat?????

I've spent plenty time on the NHL website, and there is no such statistic as "Scoring percentage" in any of their stat categories.
 

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