bustaheims
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Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
Same here. He might not be producing as much offensively as I would like, but he's certainly contributing in a number of other ways.
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Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
Erndog said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
You're so forgiving.
Zee said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
When a player who scored 30 goals one season is on pace for 9 this year, it's very discouraging. The Leafs were counting on him for at least 25 goals. Sure he's defensively responsible, makes some nice plays out there, but he's expected to put up points.
Tigger said:Zee said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
When a player who scored 30 goals one season is on pace for 9 this year, it's very discouraging. The Leafs were counting on him for at least 25 goals. Sure he's defensively responsible, makes some nice plays out there, but he's expected to put up points.
So, not really invisible then.
bustaheims said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
Same here. He might not be producing as much offensively as I would like, but he's certainly contributing in a number of other ways.
Tigger said:Erndog said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
You're so forgiving.
Not really, if he wasn't doing everything but putting up similar numbers to last year I would say so.
Zee said:Tigger said:Zee said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
When a player who scored 30 goals one season is on pace for 9 this year, it's very discouraging. The Leafs were counting on him for at least 25 goals. Sure he's defensively responsible, makes some nice plays out there, but he's expected to put up points.
So, not really invisible then.
Never said he was, just very disappointing. If he was putting up points like last season the Leafs would be in better shape today.
Erndog said:Tigger said:Erndog said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
You're so forgiving.
Not really, if he wasn't doing everything but putting up similar numbers to last year I would say so.
So, basically, he's been playing at the level of any good 4th liner.
You're typical 4th liner like Gregory Campbell is essentially in the same boat.
The difference is, Boston expects Campbell to play 6min a night and be their 10 or 11th best forward. We expected Kulemin to play 16-18 min a night, score ~25 and one one of our top 6.
Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Erndog said:Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Or Mike Brown, or David Steckal. They've all been about the same in "those other areas."
Whoopdy-friggin-do
Erndog said:Tigger said:Erndog said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
You're so forgiving.
Not really, if he wasn't doing everything but putting up similar numbers to last year I would say so.
So, basically, he's been playing at the level of any good 4th liner.
You're typical 4th liner like Gregory Campbell is essentially in the same boat.
The difference is, Boston expects Campbell to play 6min a night and be their 10 or 11th best forward. We expected Kulemin to play 16-18 min a night, score ~25 and one one of our top 6.
Tigger said:Erndog said:Tigger said:Erndog said:Tigger said:Kulemin is pretty far from invisible in my books.
You're so forgiving.
Not really, if he wasn't doing everything but putting up similar numbers to last year I would say so.
So, basically, he's been playing at the level of any good 4th liner.
You're typical 4th liner like Gregory Campbell is essentially in the same boat.
The difference is, Boston expects Campbell to play 6min a night and be their 10 or 11th best forward. We expected Kulemin to play 16-18 min a night, score ~25 and one one of our top 6.
You want to crap all over him, well feel free but I don't agree with you. Sometimes players have a rough go and need time to sort it out, if his defensive play had disappeared too then I would be really concerned but it hasn't and it's not like the Leafs are the Bruins.
Erndog said:Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Or Mike Brown, or David Steckal. They've all been about the same in "those other areas."
Whoopdy-friggin-do
Tigger said:Erndog said:Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Or Mike Brown, or David Steckal. They've all been about the same in "those other areas."
Whoopdy-friggin-do
Uh huh. :
Heck, who even cares about defence anyways.
Tigger said:Erndog said:Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Or Mike Brown, or David Steckal. They've all been about the same in "those other areas."
Whoopdy-friggin-do
Uh huh. :
Heck, who even cares about defence anyways.
Tigger said:The point was that he hasn't been invisible and he's off by what, 10 or 12 points?
The biggest area of concern is his overall shots being down and his shooting percentage being down too, both are somewhat correctable.
He's also getting 2 full less minutes of ice time on average, not that he deserves more but that has an impact too.
Erndog said:Tigger said:Erndog said:Sarge said:Tigger said:he's been very good in other areas that matter too.
Yes, he's been as good as Crabb in those other areas.
Or Mike Brown, or David Steckal. They've all been about the same in "those other areas."
Whoopdy-friggin-do
Uh huh. :
Heck, who even cares about defence anyways.
Ugh... he's been no different in the defensive side of things like Dupuis, Crabb, Steckal, Brown or Boyce. Heck we could call up Zignomanis or Muller and probably get the same effort.
He hasn't separated himself "in those other areas" at all. You could draw any name out of a hat and get the same level of play "in those other areas."