Game 56 - Montreal @ Leafs- Feb 11th, 2012 - 7:00 PM EST - CBC

[Zee]

Great another loss. Way to honor Sundin.

The game's over? What'd I miss...

Oh yeah, the Leafs are coming right back.

At the time it was 2-0 with what, almost half a game to go? ...should we be handing out Freedom Fries or something?

Call it an educated guess. In fact call it whatever you want. The proof is on the scoreboard.

Should I average the results of the contents of hermetically sealed envelopes to get the point across or no?

Tigger, you didn't have a point. Anyone who knows the Leafs at all could tell that they weren't coming back in that one. I think it's cool that you were hoping for hope, like when your cat runs away or you buy a lottery ticket, but the final result should point to the idea that there something behind the comments and it wasn't just an overreaction to an early deficit.

Again, I look forward to getting the results of the game after the 30 minute mark from now on, it'll save a lot of time.

I love how you continue to deny the fact everyone could tell the game was over at 2-0. I said it was over just by watching how they were playing.  The fact it ended 5-0 doesn't give any credence that MAYBE I knew what I was talking about? I don't call all games at the 30 minute mark, but when I do, it's usually a blowout.

 

[Kin]

I'll just repeat what's been said already: this team has a dearth of leadership, from Wilson, through Phaneuf, and right on down.  I think I've seen enough to conclude that Phaneuf doesn't have the mental make-up (read: intelligence) to be a good captain in this league, and with crotchety, hapless old Ron as the only other pillar of leadership on the team, well, we're left with 5-0 loss to the Habs on a night honouring (probably) the best Leaf in history.

Shameful, disheartening stuff, even for a fan as cynical as I am.

To get back at something from last night, I'm usually not someone to talk about a team's leadership because, as was pointed out, a lot of that stuff is something that we as fans aren't always privy to and can't really be qualified.

But I think the Leafs situation is kind of different. Right now, the Leafs leadership among the players is:

C - Dion Phaneuf
A - Mikhail Grabovski
A - Colby Armstrong
A - Mike Komisarek

So of the team's four official leaders, two were healthy scratches last night. I don't care what you think about the individual players, if the team's leaders can't even consistently keep themselves in the line-up then there's going to be a deficiency of leadership in the line-up. You don't need to be in the dressing room to know that if the team's leaders are in the press box that they're providing limited benefit.

Honestly, of that list, the only guy who I'm comfortable with in terms of being an on-ice leader in terms of the wisdom of his decisions, his lack of mental mistakes and the consistency of his effort is Grabo.

 

[Tigger]

I love how you continue to deny the fact everyone could tell the game was over at 2-0. I said it was over just by watching how they were playing.  The fact it ended 5-0 doesn't give any credence that MAYBE I knew what I was talking about? I don't call all games at the 30 minute mark, but when I do, it's usually a blowout.

It doesn't to me.

Who is 'everyone'?

 

[Jalili]

Fell asleep for most of the game but watched the highlights.

1st goal looked like a total softie through Reimer's 5 hole, 2nd was a meltdown by Schenn - pretty much par for what I've come to expect from him, 3rd was a PK goal and in all fairness TO may have been due for one, 4th was Dion getting deked the f*** out. On the 5th Franson let a no name grinder skate down the middle on a breakaway, and Liles was completely out of position.

What a stinker.

 

[TheMightyOdin]

I needed a couple of days to post after watching that horror show.

The crowd was so fired up for Mats and we put up a stinker of a game. To me this wasn't just another hockey game. If we had lost a close game that would have been heartbreaking but to lose this way on this night and to that team.......^%#%#}}}#%!

 

[Bullfrog]

To get back at something from last night, I'm usually not someone to talk about a team's leadership because, as was pointed out, a lot of that stuff is something that we as fans aren't always privy to and can't really be qualified.

But I think the Leafs situation is kind of different. Right now, the Leafs leadership among the players is:

C - Dion Phaneuf
A - Mikhail Grabovski
A - Colby Armstrong
A - Mike Komisarek

So of the team's four official leaders, two were healthy scratches last night. I don't care what you think about the individual players, if the team's leaders can't even consistently keep themselves in the line-up then there's going to be a deficiency of leadership in the line-up. You don't need to be in the dressing room to know that if the team's leaders are in the press box that they're providing limited benefit.

Honestly, of that list, the only guy who I'm comfortable with in terms of being an on-ice leader in terms of the wisdom of his decisions, his lack of mental mistakes and the consistency of his effort is Grabo.

Can't argue with that. A team's leaders don't need to be its best players, but being regular players would be a good start.