Game of Thrones (S7)

[Kin]

Therefore, Arya is likely to best the zombie-Mountain when the time comes. Martin and the show (via Bronn) have leaned on speed > size/strength.

Arya's certainly going to have the best shot generation of any of them. And from high danger zones.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Martin and the show (via Bronn) have leaned on speed > size/strength.

As long as arrogance/pride doesn't come into the equation (RIP Oberyn)

 

[Kin]

Kind of cool that ex-Jays prospect Noah Syndergaard apparently had a cameo last night:

http://deadspin.com/heres-noah-syndergaards-cameo-on-game-of-thrones-1797591010

Dickey just would have knuckled that spear.

 

[Zee]

I didn't like that entire Bronn sequence where he uncovers the secret weapon and has ample opportunity to line up a few shots without anyone disturbing him. Then he's Mr. Wonderful able to save Jaimie in the nick of time too.

 

[herman]

Arya's certainly going to have the best shot generation of any of them. And from high danger zones.

xK% is quite high with her Stabs60 where it already is, even in limited screen time. I think she outperforms handily it next season.

Martin and the show (via Bronn) have leaned on speed > size/strength.

As long as arrogance/pride doesn't come into the equation (RIP Oberyn)

Arya does have a penchant for luxuriating over a personal kill, and the Mountain is on her list. The tricky part is, how vulnerable is he to traditional means of death being that he is pretty much a wight? Does Valyrian steel (with its runes and forging incantations and dragonfire association) have the same effect as dragonglass* on wights and White Walkers?

*Dragonglass turns off White Walker magic

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Arya does have a penchant for luxuriating over a personal kill, and the Mountain is on her list. The tricky part is, how vulnerable is he to traditional means of death being that he is pretty much a wight? Does Valyrian steel (with its runes and forging incantations and dragonfire association) have the same effect as dragonglass* on wights and White Walkers?

*Dragonglass turns off White Walker magic

Valyrian steel does have the same effect as dragonglass, yes. Jon's sword is Valyrian steel and he killed that dude at Hardhome with it.

 

[Kin]

I didn't like that entire Bronn sequence where he uncovers the secret weapon and has ample opportunity to line up a few shots without anyone disturbing him. Then he's Mr. Wonderful able to save Jaimie in the nick of time too.

I think Alan Sepinwall really nailed that in his review:

It?s a weird feeling to be put in a position to be rooting for the deaths of one or both of the show?s most entertaining characters at this late stage, but that?s where we are. If both Bronn and Jaime escape with minor injuries from a sequence presented as an utter curb-stomping, while a bunch of anonymous cannon fodder ? and maybe Sam?s brother and/or father ? die screaming, it can feel like a cheat. And that concluding sequence with Jaime, Drogon, and the river feels like a classic example of schmuck bait, which is what TV writers call moments where they tease an outcome that only the most naive viewer believes would ever happen.

http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/game-of-thrones-recap-spoils-of-war-review-dothraki-dragons/2/

 

[herman]

Arya does have a penchant for luxuriating over a personal kill, and the Mountain is on her list. The tricky part is, how vulnerable is he to traditional means of death being that he is pretty much a wight? Does Valyrian steel (with its runes and forging incantations and dragonfire association) have the same effect as dragonglass* on wights and White Walkers?

*Dragonglass turns off White Walker magic

Valyrian steel does have the same effect as dragonglass, yes. Jon's sword is Valyrian steel and he killed that dude at Hardhome with it.

That was against a White Walker, which both Valyrian Steel and dragonglass have an effect. But the Mountain is more wight than White Walker (not knowing what technique Qyburn employed). Fire stops wights, but not White Walkers. Valyrian steel and dragonglass are supposed to be dragonfire made solid, so it ought to do as you say.

 

[herman]

I think Alan Sepinwall really nailed that in his review:

Schmuck bait is right.

Jaime's arc is trending down (at the moment), but he has more to do next season. For all his military victories this season, he's been openly mocked by Euron, raped by his sister, treated like a prostitute as Cersei answered the door, torn a new one by Olenna, lost a train of food reserves, saved by 2nd time soldier Rickon Dickon, literally lost his Honor (poor pony ), all after thinking there was no lower he could go after he lost his sword hand. He's set to regress to the mean, which is to say, callback to the preseason 1 when he saved the kingdom from tyranny.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I didn't like that entire Bronn sequence where he uncovers the secret weapon and has ample opportunity to line up a few shots without anyone disturbing him. Then he's Mr. Wonderful able to save Jaimie in the nick of time too.

I think Alan Sepinwall really nailed that in his review:

It?s a weird feeling to be put in a position to be rooting for the deaths of one or both of the show?s most entertaining characters at this late stage, but that?s where we are. If both Bronn and Jaime escape with minor injuries from a sequence presented as an utter curb-stomping, while a bunch of anonymous cannon fodder ? and maybe Sam?s brother and/or father ? die screaming, it can feel like a cheat. And that concluding sequence with Jaime, Drogon, and the river feels like a classic example of schmuck bait, which is what TV writers call moments where they tease an outcome that only the most naive viewer believes would ever happen.

http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/game-of-thrones-recap-spoils-of-war-review-dothraki-dragons/2/

I feel like if Martin wrote that battle then Bronn would have definitely been a goner. But the writers and producers of the show know how much people love him.

 

[herman]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/08/game-of-thrones-arya-brienne-fight-season-7-episode-4-spoils-of-war

As annoying as all the plot holes are and the character development that falls into them and the teleporting navies have become in the name of spectacle, there are still layers to Game of Thrones which I really enjoy, particularly with the principles.

Joanna Robinson's analysis is pretty spot on in recalling all the influences that have shaped and moulded the middle Starks when they were scattered.

All season long, Thrones has been exploring the influence of the various non-Starks who had a hand in raising the orphaned Arya, Sansa, Bran, and Jon. Bran, of course, has transformed utterly into his mentor: the Three-Eyed Raven. That loss of all Stark identity is his tragedy. Meanwhile, Sansa is struggling to balance the lessons of duty and honor learned from her mother and father with the manipulative influence of both her mentors: Littlefinger and Cersei. ?You almost sound like you admire Cersei,? Jon remarks in Episode 1. ?I learned a lot from her,? Sansa admits with a tinge of regret.

But none of the Stark children had as many adoptive parental figures as Arya Stark, who has, since she lost her father in Season 1, been bounced from one dark father to the next.

 

[Kin]

Schmuck bait is right.

Jaime's arc is trending down (at the moment), but he has more to do next season. For all his military victories this season, he's been openly mocked by Euron, raped by his sister, treated like a prostitute as Cersei answered the door, torn a new one by Olenna, lost a train of food reserves, saved by 2nd time soldier Rickon Dickon, literally lost his Honor (poor pony ), all after thinking there was no lower he could go after he lost his sword hand. He's set to regress to the mean, which is to say, callback to the preseason 1 when he saved the kingdom from tyranny.

Of all the characters on the show, I'm probably the most confused with Jaime and what they want us to think about him.

Also, re: the knocking him off his horse and saving him..it seems like there's some confusion as to whether or not it was Bronn or Dickon who did that.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Also, re: the knocking him off his horse and saving him..it seems like there's some confusion as to whether or not it was Bronn or Dickon who did that.

I saw that too so I double-checked and it was definitely Bronn. They don't show his face clearly, but it was his hair and clothes (Dickon was wearing a full suit of armour, the guy who saved Jamie was wearing Bronn's leather outfit)

 

[Kin]

I saw that too so I double-checked and it was definitely Bronn. They don't show his face clearly, but it was his hair and clothes (Dickon was wearing a full suit of armour, the guy who saved Jamie was wearing Bronn's leather outfit)

Yeah, I thought so but I suppose some of the confusion may be caused by the fact that it really seems like an out of character thing for Bronn to do.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Yeah, I thought so but I suppose some of the confusion may be caused by the fact that it really seems like an out of character thing for Bronn to do.

That's true, I never really thought of that. I kinda just accepted that they were friends now after all this time and Bronn would have taken that risk. Then again he didn't take that risk for Tyrion back when someone had to fight the Mountain despite those two being friends. And in that conversation Bronn made it quite clear that his friendship only went so far. Still, that was definitely him. I guess this is just another case of the writers now valuing a good story over character development. Hopefully Bronn at least turns this to his favour and now demands Jamie gives him Highgarden.

 

[herman]

Jaime promised Bronn a castle; one doesn't just let that from a noted debt payer go to waste.

 

[Kin]

Jaime promised Bronn a castle; one doesn't just let that from a noted debt payer go to waste.

I'd think if the guy who promised you a castle just had his entire army turned into fishsticks you probably aren't primarily worried about your long-term financial futures.

 

[herman]

Bronn is literally a plot vehicle for the Lannisters, and as a fan favourite, his plot armour is impregnable until the end. Need something for the Lannister kid to make it to a certain checkpoint but wrote them into a corner beyond their capabilities to overcome? Bronn.

 

[herman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE2wcBeyNdk

Details BTS of the Loot Train Attack. The direwolves died for this.

When can we see Emilia Clarke actually use her eyebrows in character?

 

[Zee]

Also, re: the knocking him off his horse and saving him..it seems like there's some confusion as to whether or not it was Bronn or Dickon who did that.

I saw that too so I double-checked and it was definitely Bronn. They don't show his face clearly, but it was his hair and clothes (Dickon was wearing a full suit of armour, the guy who saved Jamie was wearing Bronn's leather outfit)

It was definitely Bronn based on the stolen script that the hackers leaked last week.